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srebbe64

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13,021 posts

267 months

Friday 5th August 2005
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This morning I got a phone call from one of my staff. She was clearly upset, and went on to say that her 12 year old son was in Bracknell town centre yesterday, minding his own business and doing a bit of shopping. All of a sudden about 20 kids, most 16 or older, started kicking and punching him and beat him senseless. He's currently recovering in hospital. Thankfully no bones broken, but severely bruised. God knows what it's done to him emotionally!

It sounds to me like a "happy slappy" incident to me, but I don't know for sure. In any event, I've told my staff member that my company would:

a) Pay for him to have any appropriate coundselling;

b) If necessary, I'd employ a a private investigator if the police don't manage to track down the thugs.

If option 'b' is utilised, I'll have to think long and hard about how I use that information!

JagLover

46,766 posts

265 months

Friday 5th August 2005
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If they are under the age of 17 even if the police caught them I doubt they would receive anything we would regard as a 'punishment'

jacko lah

3,297 posts

279 months

Friday 5th August 2005
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Via a Solicitor you can get access legally to any CCTV footage but time is of the essence as lots only keep it for a week or even less, - which of course the police will view anyway.

If you can identify the culprits, it is possible to bring a private criminal procecution in addition to going down the route of persuing compensation for damages, which if you can't identify the culprets can be claimed via criminal injuries agency.

PS Don't take law into own hands, instead use the law to extract the most hassle.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

269 months

Friday 5th August 2005
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srebbe64 said:

b) If necessary, I'd employ a a private investigator if the police don't manage to track down the thugs.

If option 'b' is utilised, I'll have to think long and hard about how I use that information!


If the police can't meter out justice, then as long as the information is 100% accurate, I would just deal with the whole thing "privately" so to speak

ApexClipper

27,709 posts

273 months

Friday 5th August 2005
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12 Years old!

Jeez

B17NNS

18,506 posts

277 months

Friday 5th August 2005
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BliarOut said:
If the police can't meter out justice, then as long as the information is 100% accurate, I would just deal with the whole thing "privately" so to speak


agreed. they need to feel the fear that the poor victim felt.

AlexH

2,505 posts

314 months

Friday 5th August 2005
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BliarOut said:

srebbe64 said:

b) If necessary, I'd employ a a private investigator if the police don't manage to track down the thugs.

If option 'b' is utilised, I'll have to think long and hard about how I use that information!



If the police can't meter out justice, then as long as the information is 100% accurate, I would just deal with the whole thing "privately" so to speak


But why should a decent person have to put themselves in a position where they could be open to prosecution? I know the reality is that sweet FA will be done to them, and I appreciate why you're saying that BliarOut, but it just makes me sick to the stomach. In fact, I feel a letter to my MP coming on. The British public can't take the courts treating justice like a joke for much longer.

ShanksPony

140 posts

255 months

Friday 5th August 2005
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Making me feel really old here. I wasn't allowed out unaccompanied (unless it was to the local playground) until I was 13 years old.

Scary the number of unsupervised kids about during school holidays. I know that some people 'have' to work but it is worrying the number of latch key kids about.

richardthestag

1,406 posts

263 months

Friday 5th August 2005
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srebbe64 said:
This morning I got a phone call from one of my staff. She was clearly upset, and went on to say that her 12 year old son was in Bracknell town centre yesterday, minding his own business and doing a bit of shopping. All of a sudden about 20 kids, most 16 or older, started kicking and punching him and beat him senseless. He's currently recovering in hospital. Thankfully no bones broken, but severely bruised. God knows what it's done to him emotionally!

It sounds to me like a "happy slappy" incident to me, but I don't know for sure. In any event, I've told my staff member that my company would:

a) Pay for him to have any appropriate coundselling;

b) If necessary, I'd employ a a private investigator if the police don't manage to track down the thugs.

If option 'b' is utilised, I'll have to think long and hard about how I use that information!



Poor little sod, I do know how he feels after spending most of the early 80's having the crap kicked out of my in bullying incidents. I was very short until I was 15y/o

If I were you I would be seeking CCTV to identify key perps. I would then use images from CCTV showing them "in the act" before anonymously sticking up very large wanted posters all over town pointing out exactly what it is these scumbags have done.

Of course some vigilantes may use information that you provide to take matters into their own ah-hem hands

etc

R

bouffy

1,540 posts

292 months

Friday 5th August 2005
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I think what you are doing is way beyond the call of duty, and totally commendable. Well done.

For no apparent reason, my youngest bro was punched in the face and thrown in front of a bus a couple of weeks ago. Would have loved to catch the 13 yr old aggressor in the act.

So far, the police have doen the square root of all about it. And we know who the little scrote is.

Cue comments about this country going to the dogs, punishments don't mirror crimes, etc etc...

timmy30

9,325 posts

257 months

Friday 5th August 2005
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You know the really sad/worrying thing. I bet there were hundreds of adults around all of whom could have put a stop to it. Why the hell didn't a couple of blokes intervene, there must have been some about?

alexkp

16,484 posts

274 months

Friday 5th August 2005
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srebbe64 said:
This morning I got a phone call from one of my staff. She was clearly upset, and went on to say that her 12 year old son was in Bracknell town centre yesterday, minding his own business and doing a bit of shopping. All of a sudden about 20 kids, most 16 or older, started kicking and punching him and beat him senseless. He's currently recovering in hospital. Thankfully no bones broken, but severely bruised. God knows what it's done to him emotionally!

It sounds to me like a "happy slappy" incident to me, but I don't know for sure. In any event, I've told my staff member that my company would:

a) Pay for him to have any appropriate coundselling;

b) If necessary, I'd employ a a private investigator if the police don't manage to track down the thugs.

If option 'b' is utilised, I'll have to think long and hard about how I use that information!



I have used private investigators in the past. I don't know whether you have, but there are a number of considerations. Email me if you want to chat a bit further on this one.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

269 months

Friday 5th August 2005
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AlexH said:

BliarOut said:


srebbe64 said:

b) If necessary, I'd employ a a private investigator if the police don't manage to track down the thugs.

If option 'b' is utilised, I'll have to think long and hard about how I use that information!




If the police can't meter out justice, then as long as the information is 100% accurate, I would just deal with the whole thing "privately" so to speak



But why should a decent person have to put themselves in a position where they could be open to prosecution? I know the reality is that sweet FA will be done to them, and I appreciate why you're saying that BliarOut, but it just makes me sick to the stomach. In fact, I feel a letter to my MP coming on. The British public can't take the courts treating justice like a joke for much longer.


The legal system is there to ensure that justice is seen to be done. Without this, then there is anarchy. Unfortunately the current legal system seems to leave us with little choice but to head down that route.

up-the-dubs

4,282 posts

259 months

Friday 5th August 2005
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Srebbe64, Whatever happens, well done Sir. A truely noble act.

cosmoschick

7,977 posts

279 months

Friday 5th August 2005
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ShanksPony said:
Making me feel really old here. I wasn't allowed out unaccompanied (unless it was to the local playground) until I was 13 years old.

Scary the number of unsupervised kids about during school holidays. I know that some people 'have' to work but it is worrying the number of latch key kids about.



Totally agree. I shan't let my daughters go unaccompanied into town at age 12. It's potentially too dangerous and I'm simply not prepared to take the risk. However, that said, I feel terribly sorry for this poor little lad. What a wicked thing to have happened.

The other week in my town a couple of youths on mopeds came speeding around a corner on the pavement nearly knocking my youngest child to the ground. It was only because she stepped back in time that the f idiots missed her, only by a few inches I might add. I felt such a rage of anger come over me I could have ripped their f heads off but in a split second thought better of it since I'd be the one in trouble and not them.

AlexH

2,505 posts

314 months

Friday 5th August 2005
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BliarOut said:

The legal system is there to ensure that justice is seen to be done. Without this, then there is anarchy. Unfortunately the current legal system seems to leave us with little choice but to head down that route.


You're so right its not funny.
Crying shame it that its so easily savagable if the fking politicians pulled their heads out of their arses and passed legislation to give less discretion to the judiciary to be soft on the small percentage constantly reoffending little scrotes who commit the huge majority of crimes.
Hats off to Srebbe64 btw.

srebbe64

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13,021 posts

267 months

Friday 5th August 2005
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Thanks Alex, you have mail.

monkeyhanger

9,267 posts

272 months

Friday 5th August 2005
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srebbe64 said:

In any event, I've told my staff member that my company would:

a) Pay for him to have any appropriate coundselling;

b) If necessary, I'd employ a a private investigator if the police don't manage to track down the thugs.

If option 'b' is utilised, I'll have to think long and hard about how I use that information!



You deserve a pat on the back for that reaction, absoloutely first-class.

Many of us work for employers who begrudge us a couple of days off for the death of a family member...I tip my hat to you sir


As for the scrotes in question, if plod doesn't take it seriously, a quick word to the local press might help things along a bit.

alexkp

16,484 posts

274 months

Friday 5th August 2005
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Gazboy said:
This reminds me of what my boss saw on Sunday.

He was out shopping with his 2 year old girl, when he saw 20 teenagers/twentie-somethings kicking the shit out of an unconcious lad (his head was used as a football), they then started throwing housebricks at him. My boss threw his daughter in the car and called the police. This was on Sunday, as yet, he's heard nothing from the cop-shop. He's been racked with guilt, as he wanted to help, but with his little girl, it was out of the question. The thing is, this happens all the time in Watford now.


What the hell are the police playing at? Good grief, this makes me so angry. Even when you try to help them and be a good citizen they often aren't interested.

srebbe64

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13,021 posts

267 months

Friday 5th August 2005
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anonymous said:
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I'll tell you where the police are, they're round my town with their speed cameras - criminalising upstanding, tax paying citizens!