V5 Fraud
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Gary C

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15,232 posts

208 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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A relation has brought his car in from abroad and needs to get it registered in the UK

Last week they used an agency to do all the paperwork and this week when waiting for it to come through, they found that the car had been taxed and SORNed on the same day and the V5 has been sent to an address down in London.

Basically, the car has been registered to a different keeper.

Now, they are worried that the people could get a key made with all the details they now possess and come and take the car and it would be very difficult to resolve.

I think it seems more likely they have tried to run a complex ringing scam and have a stolen car to put the registration onto it so they can sell it.

What do we think ? anyone had anything similar ?

Pete54

221 posts

139 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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V5 is not proof of ownership - make the car secure and then review what on earth you did. importing is really straight forward, so easy to do yourself - does this point to the agency or another party?

Gary C

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15,232 posts

208 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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err

'I' did nothing.

I'm not sure why they did it or if the fact the car is from Qatar makes any difference but I wondered if anyone has heard of similar.

joropug

3,051 posts

218 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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Are you sure it's not an admin mistake and it's definitely fraud?


Trevor555

5,411 posts

113 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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Gary C said:
A relation has brought his car in from abroad and needs to get it registered in the UK

Last week they used an agency to do all the paperwork and this week when waiting for it to come through, they found that the car had been taxed and SORNed on the same day and the V5 has been sent to an address down in London.

Basically, the car has been registered to a different keeper.
How has he found out it's gone to an address in London?

Edited by Trevor555 on Monday 9th May 18:21

Gary C

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Monday 9th May 2022
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Now this is difficult to answer

I don't know why it is like this, but apparently its registered at an address in London that's an Indian takeaway (but not sure how he could find this out) and has been SORNed

Its been reported to the Police so maybe this information has come about from the investigation.

But its confusing so thats why I asked if anyone has heard of anything like it ?

Trevor555

5,411 posts

113 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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Gary C said:
Now this is difficult to answer

I don't know why it is like this, but apparently its registered at an address in London that's an Indian takeaway (but not sure how he could find this out) and has been SORNed

Its been reported to the Police so maybe this information has come about from the investigation.

But its confusing so thats why I asked if anyone has heard of anything like it ?
I've not heard anything like that happening, sounds very dodgy.

All I can think of is it's maybe a mistake by the agent?

Dealer bringing in cars for retail usually register them, and then sorn them, to get the cost of the tax back, so that's not unusual in that respect.

If the agent isn't answering the phone then I'd be very worried.


Edited by Trevor555 on Monday 9th May 18:34

Gary C

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15,232 posts

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Monday 9th May 2022
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Trevor555 said:
Gary C said:
Now this is difficult to answer

I don't know why it is like this, but apparently its registered at an address in London that's an Indian takeaway (but not sure how he could find this out) and has been SORNed

Its been reported to the Police so maybe this information has come about from the investigation.

But its confusing so thats why I asked if anyone has heard of anything like it ?
I've not heard anything like that happening, sounds very dodgy.

All I can think of is it's maybe a mistake by the agent?

Dealer bringing in cars for retail usually register them, and then sorn them, to get the cost of the tax back, so that's not unusual in that respect.

If the agent isn't answering the phone then I'd be very worried.


Edited by Trevor555 on Monday 9th May 18:34
Does seem strange

Will see how it pans out.

donkmeister

12,837 posts

129 months

Tuesday 10th May 2022
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The address - could be offices in the same building. If you look at Companies House there's a lot of directors with addresses above shops etc in London.

Where I lived in London many young chaps from the oil states brought their cars over for the summer season... They are all Hooray Henry types so unlikely to want to get involved in paperwork, so perhaps this is some standard practice by agents who ship cars in from that region to avoid annoying their clients with details such as "who is the actual keeper of the vehicle"? Is it possible that, coming from Qatar, there has been a misunderstanding?