Buying a car & Recession..!!!
Buying a car & Recession..!!!
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Dave3166

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1,846 posts

154 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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Hi all.

I’ve got my eye on a car, £80k, looking to buy it for cash.
Seeing as there is a possible deep recession on the horizon am I better of waiting.
What I’m saying is, will cars be cheaper in a recession or not.
Would the car I’m interested in buying be worth less than what I pay for it.
I know they go down anyway under normal circumstances, but would a recession make the price drop a lot more.
Thanks for any replies.
Dave.

PositronicRay

28,877 posts

211 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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IME yes.


People buying expensive cars are often the movers, shakers and business owners. During a recession they don't want to appear flash. Imagine rocking up in a flashy new motor, then telling Bill & John they can't have thier Saturday morning overtime.

MrCD

35 posts

78 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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What car is it?

Chrishum

1,413 posts

96 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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Do you want the car?

Can you afford it?

Will you need to sell it in a hurry?

If your answers are yes, yes, no, then stop worrying and just buy the thing you want.

I get the impression from many posts on here that car enthusiasts have been replaced by investors and that’s a sad state of affairs.

anonymous-user

82 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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If there is any chance you may need to sell in a hurry then I would be worried, as if there is a recession then the price you are offered is going to hurt.

BlueJ

405 posts

73 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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Yes values will come down if there's a "deep recession", and logically there is some reckoning to come down the line as consumers start to allocate funds between food, heating, holidays & cars (inc. fuel). In reality it has been too easy to fund, and therefore "own", a £50K+ car, for some time now. One of the all-time best ever sales promotions organised by car companies and their finance arms.

You are a cash buyer but this last point is still relevant - if fewer people choose to allocate £700 - £1,000 per month towards their car finance arrangement, there will be less demand and prices will soften.

Equally - it doesn't matter if prices are down if you're not selling (or not forced to sell).



Dave3166

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154 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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MrCD said:
What car is it?
Nissan GTR.

Dave3166

Original Poster:

1,846 posts

154 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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Chrishum said:
Do you want the car?

Can you afford it?

Will you need to sell it in a hurry?

If your answers are yes, yes, no, then stop worrying and just buy the thing you want.

I get the impression from many posts on here that car enthusiasts have been replaced by investors and that’s a sad state of affairs.
Like you say…….Yes, Yes, No.

Dave3166

Original Poster:

1,846 posts

154 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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Thanks for all the replies.
Very helpful & informative.
Appreciate it.

av185

20,464 posts

155 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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As others have rightly said it depends how long you were intending keeping the car.

In 2008 used values on higher end stuff in particular tanked many sold out but were subsequently caught out by buying back at a much higher figure as the speed of recovery was very rapid much like the equity markets.

Invariably retention of residual value will be very car and model dependent and whilst the GTR is a good package it would most likely be fairly susceptible to quite aggressive depreciation during economic downturn.

Wheelspinning

2,283 posts

58 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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Do it.

Keep it standard and you will suffer very little if any loss.

They dropped very little in value during 10yrs of production, so with production ceased, they shall remain firm with the best standard ones doing strong money regardless of the economy.

Katsura Orange if it was me.

Times are very different to 2008.

samoht

7,163 posts

174 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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The problem with waiting is that like trying to call the top or bottom of any market, you can end up hanging around a long time. I still don't see a sudden crash in used values, more a gradual decline as new-car supply comes through. So yes it'll depreciate more in the next three years than the last three (which isn't saying much), but I don't see it as worth waiting.

Additionally, more focused cars like the GT-R tend to have better residuals anyway. And will there be a combustion-engined successor sold here? The phasing out of petrol engines will also tend to support R35 residuals I think.

IMO yes prices may go down, but may not go down sharply any time soon, and GT-R prices may go down less or may go up instead. Couple this with the fact you have the chance to buy and start enjoying the car now, and I'd say go for it.

Dave3166

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1,846 posts

154 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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samoht said:
The problem with waiting is that like trying to call the top or bottom of any market, you can end up hanging around a long time. I still don't see a sudden crash in used values, more a gradual decline as new-car supply comes through. So yes it'll depreciate more in the next three years than the last three (which isn't saying much), but I don't see it as worth waiting.

Additionally, more focused cars like the GT-R tend to have better residuals anyway. And will there be a combustion-engined successor sold here? The phasing out of petrol engines will also tend to support R35 residuals I think.

IMO yes prices may go down, but may not go down sharply any time soon, and GT-R prices may go down less or may go up instead. Couple this with the fact you have the chance to buy and start enjoying the car now, and I'd say go for it.
Thanks for this, all very true.

Like you & others have said, just bloody buy it & enjoy it.

Also my good lady says if you want it get it..

Dave3166

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Thursday 12th May 2022
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Wheelspinning said:
Do it.

Keep it standard and you will suffer very little if any loss.

They dropped very little in value during 10yrs of production, so with production ceased, they shall remain firm with the best standard ones doing strong money regardless of the economy.

Katsura Orange if it was me.

Times are very different to 2008.
Tanks for this.
Actually the one I’m looking at is Katsura Orange, completely standard.
Fantastic colour to be fair.

Dave3166

Original Poster:

1,846 posts

154 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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Thanks for the other replies also, very helpful.

Dave3166

Original Poster:

1,846 posts

154 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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Wheelspinning said:
Do it.

Keep it standard and you will suffer very little if any loss.

They dropped very little in value during 10yrs of production, so with production ceased, they shall remain firm with the best standard ones doing strong money regardless of the economy.

Katsura Orange if it was me.

Times are very different to 2008.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111019106390?advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=So45%204rb&model=GT-R&sort=price-desc&page=3&make=Nissan&include-delivery-option=on&percentVehiclePriceDeposit=true

AlexNJ89

3,202 posts

107 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Dave3166 said:
Absolutely stunning car.

In my opinion it will probably be worth £60k in 6-8 months time. I was in a similar situation when buying my Alpine A110 back in November, I concluded that another spec like the one I have isn't going to come up again (and it hasn't), so if it does end up halving in value I'll just go for a drive in a car that I love and I'll quickly forget all about it.

ChrisH72

3,040 posts

80 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Alpine A110 is most likely a future classic, I wouldn't worry about that losing money.

The only thing that would bother me with that Nissan is that it's the last of the 630 quid tax models. Couple of months newer and it's 165 quid. That could affect value.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

275 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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For example, In 2008 recession Aston Vantage V8s plummeted in value for about a year and then climbed back up.

So yes, some cars will dive in value. But a few years after, quality/desirable will gain value again when the recovery happens…..

Dave3166

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1,846 posts

154 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Thanks for those last few replies guys, as usual, very informative.