Help! Wheel bearing collapsed...
Help! Wheel bearing collapsed...
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jonny

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24 posts

314 months

Tuesday 17th July 2001
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My 350 has been immobile for a few weeks now due to a knackered rear wheel bearing and the garage where it is currently residing is having a spot of bother sourcing a replacement - can anyone suggest a manufacturer, part no., etc.? Any help is very much appreciated.

350matt

3,912 posts

309 months

Tuesday 17th July 2001
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I've found that you have to go through the aftermarket / pattern suppliers as Ford no longer stock these bits, also your Garage will need a hydraulic press to get it out as it takes a couple of tons of pressure, also the 32mm nut is torqued up to some monster figure. But Brian is spot on with the info although you may be able to get away with reusing the seals, if they've been prised out carefully. Good Luck Matt Edited by 350matt on Tuesday 17th July 19:04

jonny

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24 posts

314 months

Wednesday 18th July 2001
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Many thanks Brian & Matt, I rang round for price & availability for said bearing kit (~£43) and gave the garage a call to pass on the info...only to be told that my particular car had been fitted with TOYO (who?) rear bearings which are 3/4" wider than the SKF part - hence the hassle in sourcing a replacement. However, apparently the new bearing has turned up today and is being fitted now. BTW the garage is Thames Valley Racing in Hurst. First time I've had dealings with them, they've serviced the car + a few tweaks, Steve seems to be knowledgeble on all TVRs, is a v. amiable fellow and hasn't got pissed off with me ringing up every other day for 3 weeks asking if the bearing has arrived!

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

243 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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Anyone know if the trailing arm steel hubs use the same bearing of if they are different.
one of mine has a little bit of play.

Wedg1e

27,041 posts

295 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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They're all Mk 2 Granada rears as far as I'm aware.

hallsie

2,185 posts

250 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

243 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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They look right, but I would prefer to get branded items, esp as they are going on the racer.

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

272 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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No, those ebay ones are not correct at all. The ones you're looking for have a big collar in the middle.

This one is more like it, although you only get one oil seal that you can use:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-ZEPHYR-ZODIAC-GRANADA-R...

or this one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-GRANADA-72-85-REAR-WHEE...

40 quid is a bit steep though, I usually pay about 25.

If you only have a little bit of play you can take off the hub nut, stick some more grease (LM, not black CV stuff) and do up the nut again bit not to 220lbf, or you'll wreck it in no time, probably about 100-150.

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

243 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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The ones I took out of the spare 400SE hub I have, had 2 bearings. but maybe having 1 large one will be stronger.
TVR Car Parts have them also at £45.00 so maybe worth just getting them from them.

I think I'll do them after Oulton, as not really got the time for anything to go wrong. plus there is only a small amount of play. had my friend who does my MOT have a look and he said they are only a little bit worn, and would pass a MOT.

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

272 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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Leigh, if the hub nut is split-pinned, and if you take out the pin you can tighten it by hand (suspension jacked up level) then it's too loose! That's one quick check you can do.

To be fair I've never taken out a bearing from an A-frame car, just trailing arm, but I would have thought they were the same.

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

243 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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adam quantrill said:
Leigh, if the hub nut is split-pinned, and if you take out the pin you can tighten it by hand (suspension jacked up level) then it's too loose! That's one quick check you can do.

To be fair I've never taken out a bearing from an A-frame car, just trailing arm, but I would have thought they were the same.
There not split pinned and the nuts are night, so don't want to touch them with so short a time till the next race, plus my brother is not about, one thing I forgot to check after the last race.

Oh and it is trailing arm, just the one I took a part to see how difficult it is was a 400SE one.

NTEL

5,051 posts

270 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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TVRleigh_BBWR said:
adam quantrill said:
Leigh, if the hub nut is split-pinned, and if you take out the pin you can tighten it by hand (suspension jacked up level) then it's too loose! That's one quick check you can do.

To be fair I've never taken out a bearing from an A-frame car, just trailing arm, but I would have thought they were the same.
There not split pinned and the nuts are night, so don't want to touch them with so short a time till the next race, plus my brother is not about, one thing I forgot to check after the last race.

Oh and it is trailing arm, just the one I took a part to see how difficult it is was a 400SE one.
Leigh, I replaced mine last winter when I changed to steel hub carriers. Got them from TVR Car Parts and they are very good quality. Mention that you race in the challenge wink

Number 7

4,113 posts

292 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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TVRleigh_BBWR said:
[There not split pinned and the nuts are night, so don't want to touch them with so short a time till the next race, plus my brother is not about, one thing I forgot to check after the last race.
Leigh, just a suggestion, mark the position of the nut relative to the shaft with a paint line or similar - at least you will be able to tell if it's moved. Some TVR dealers used to drill and pin these as a matter of course at service time. Mine are. You don't need to drill through the body of the nut - just the shoulder is enough, and if you mark the position of the holes on the end of the shaft, you can re-drill the nut to align with the shaft if you have to remove the nut again. Avoids having multiple drillings in the shaft.

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

243 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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I will split pin them when I change them,
But seeing as they are not loose or came loose in 10+ races I don't want to touch it currently, as just not got the time.
I'll get some of TVR Car parts though and change over winter ready for next season, as said it only got very slight play, so I'm sure there are not going anywhere.

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

272 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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Which one is the looser one? I'll bet on the passenger side... the threads (unlike Alfa Romeo) are the same hand on each side, so one side tends to undo, and the other side tends to tighten.

The paint idea is very good - just to keep an eye on it. I also mark the ends of the stub axles (hacksaw) so when I re-drill it goes through the same hole and only the nut gets multiple holes.


TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

243 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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adam quantrill said:
Which one is the looser one? I'll bet on the passenger side... the threads (unlike Alfa Romeo) are the same hand on each side, so one side tends to undo, and the other side tends to tighten.

The paint idea is very good - just to keep an eye on it. I also mark the ends of the stub axles (hacksaw) so when I re-drill it goes through the same hole and only the nut gets multiple holes.
Your right, plus good idea on the hacksaw.