Court fight looms over Sainsbury's cat ban

[Jenny Tailor]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61596623

Where do we see this one ending up?

Shetland Ponies, Peacocks, Pigs, Trained Rats ?

"Clean up on aisles 1,2,3,4.... thru 23... just all of them...."

[Timothy Bucktu]

Oh dear god

[ZedLeg]

I'm curious as to how they came to the decision that cats are more of a food safety risk than dogs.

[untakenname]

I don't see the issue with blind dogs but assistance dogs for mental health can't really be quantified so anyone can use it as an excuse.

article said:

In March, the pair visited a Sainsbury's in Clapham, south London after thinking he had been given permission. But security and store staff told him he needed to leave his cat outside.

"I ended up becoming quite upset," he says. "I got to the point where I couldn't actually remember why I was in the store and what I needed to buy.

"It affected my confidence significantly. I stayed in the house for two weeks before I got the confidence back to go out."

I wonder how he coped beforehand?

I hope Sainsbury's win but doubt it as a newsagent for got a massive fine for not letting in a mental health assistance dog a while back.

Edited by untakenname on Friday 27th May 11:53

[Biggy Stardust]

ZedLeg said:

I'm curious as to how they came to the decision that cats are more of a food safety risk than dogs.

I suspect it's more about the perceived need for a cat compared with eg a guide dog for the blind.

[Jenny Tailor]

Someone has actually boarded a plane with a horse ( Shetland most likely )
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-49564227
Play the Twitter video.


edit - here's the end image.





Not long ago - I would have said..... "Only in America"
But.......



Edit: The inflight safety brief must be a lot of fun too.
Should we need to make an emergency landing on water - your life jacket is under your seat.
Make your way camly to the exit past Dobbin, Shergar and Smores.

Edited by Jenny Tailor on Friday 27th May 12:00

[768]

Can't wait to see a horse having a crap in the cheese aisle.

Bit surprised they bothered with picking a fight over the cat though.

[Tankrizzo]

They have screwed themselves by allowing "assistance dogs".

[matchmaker]

untakenname said:

I don't see the issue with blind dogs but assistance dogs for mental health can't really be quantified so anyone can use it as an excuse.

article said:

In March, the pair visited a Sainsbury's in Clapham, south London after thinking he had been given permission. But security and store staff told him he needed to leave his cat outside.

"I ended up becoming quite upset," he says. "I got to the point where I couldn't actually remember why I was in the store and what I needed to buy.

"It affected my confidence significantly. I stayed in the house for two weeks before I got the confidence back to go out."

I wonder how people coped beforehand?

I hope Sainsbury's win but doubt it as a newsagent for got a massive fine for not letting in a mental health assistance dog a while back.

The issue with blind dogs is that they aren't much fking use as an assistance dog!

[geeks]

untakenname said:

I wonder how he coped beforehand?

I hope Sainsbury's win but doubt it as a newsagent for got a massive fine for not letting in a mental health assistance dog a while back.

Edited by untakenname on Friday 27th May 11:53

He didn't, that's the point. I hope they lose to be honest.

[Rufus Stone]

I need to get myself a mental health assistance rat.

[ZedLeg]

Biggy Stardust said:

ZedLeg said:

I'm curious as to how they came to the decision that cats are more of a food safety risk than dogs.

I suspect it's more about the perceived need for a cat compared with eg a guide dog for the blind.

People need to mind their business imo, there's piles of evidence that animals can have a positive therapeutic effect for people with autism and mental health conditions like anxiety and depression. Obviously there has to be limits and sometimes people take the piss, I know someone who got their dog registered as an assistance dog because they didn't want to put him in the hold when they moved to the US.

However I don't see how a dude going round with a cat on his shoulder is any more of a threat to people around him than folk who didn't wear masks through the lockdowns etc.

[Milkyway]

You think that’s bad... Asda are even banning humans now
( And I’m not talking about shoplifters either).
https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/best-in-leeds/whats-o...

Edited by Milkyway on Friday 27th May 12:12

[captain_cynic]

Jenny Tailor said:

Someone has actually boarded a plane with a horse ( Shetland most likely )
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-49564227
Play the Twitter video.


edit - here's the end image.

That is probably a guide horse. There for disabled people who can't have a dog for various reasons(allergies or what not) so permitted in the cabin.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guide_horse

Horses live longer than dogs but are flight animals so are more likely to bolt of they get scared.

I agree on "emotional support animals" though. Absolute bks which is why American carriers have taken a stand against hem in recent years.

Edited by captain_cynic on Friday 27th May 12:16

[alangla]

Jenny Tailor said:

Someone has actually boarded a plane with a horse ( Shetland most likely )
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-49564227
Play the Twitter video.


edit - here's the end image.





Not long ago - I would have said..... "Only in America"
But.......



Edit: The inflight safety brief must be a lot of fun too.
Should we need to make an emergency landing on water - your life jacket is under your seat.
Make your way camly to the exit past Dobbin, Shergar and Smores.

Edited by Jenny Tailor on Friday 27th May 12:00

Out of curiosity, I had a look at a couple of UK airlines and they're pretty strict on it being only dogs & also wanting to see paperwork to prove the dog has been trained to do the job

https://www.easyjet.com/en/terms-and-conditions/pa...
https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb/information/d...

[ZedLeg]

Milkyway said:

You think that’s bad... Asda are even banning humans now
( And I’m not talking about shoplifters either).
https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/best-in-leeds/whats-o...

Edited by Milkyway on Friday 27th May 12:12

I've never been asked to leave but I regularly get followed by security when I'm going round a new supermarket, I must have a look to me

Edited by ZedLeg on Friday 27th May 12:24

[Zetec-S]

Milkyway said:

You think that’s bad... Asda are banning humans now, if they don’t like the way that they shop.
( And I’m not talking about shoplifters either).
https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/best-in-leeds/whats-o...

Edited by Milkyway on Friday 27th May 12:10

It's Asda. Middlesbrough. They probably kicked him out because he wasn't shoplifting

[Roderick Spode]

My wife used to occasionally take one of our cockerels shopping, on the way back from the vets and suchlike. Raised a few eyebrows in the local Tesco.

[ZedLeg]

I was actually thinking that I've gone around shops with my cats in a carry case before with no issues.

I feel like this is one of those situations where an employee has made a judgement call that possibly went the wrong way and the company has backed them up until they can confirm the rules.

[Milkyway]

Zetec-S said:

Milkyway said:

You think that’s bad... Asda are banning humans now, if they don’t like the way that they shop.
( And I’m not talking about shoplifters either).
https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/best-in-leeds/whats-o...

Edited by Milkyway on Friday 27th May 12:10

It's Asda. Middlesbrough. They probably kicked him out because he wasn't shoplifting

He will probably need a ‘support dog’ now.