New car specification removal due to chip shortages
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Just cancelled an order for a new Fiesta ST-3 after becoming aware of more loss of specification due to Ford’s shortages of semiconductors. Ford dealers very unbecoming with the information, although I found out they were made aware back in September 21
Due to Ford’s chip shortages two key active safety technologies: blind-spot monitoring and rear-cross traffic alert have been removed, which were included as standard on the pre-facelift versions of the Fiesta ST-3, along with AM radio – which is also removed on the 2022 facelift Mk8.5, along with following features in the list below.
1,Exterior Mirrors - Power Fold Mirrors (Heated)
2, blind-spot monitoring and rear-cross traffic alert
3, Lock/unlock interior door switch
4, Forward Collision Warning
5, Lane Keeping Aid with Lane Departure Warning
6, Exterior Mirror Puddle Lamps
7, One touch electric window opening
Has anyone else discovered other manufacturers taking the same route?
Due to Ford’s chip shortages two key active safety technologies: blind-spot monitoring and rear-cross traffic alert have been removed, which were included as standard on the pre-facelift versions of the Fiesta ST-3, along with AM radio – which is also removed on the 2022 facelift Mk8.5, along with following features in the list below.
1,Exterior Mirrors - Power Fold Mirrors (Heated)
2, blind-spot monitoring and rear-cross traffic alert
3, Lock/unlock interior door switch
4, Forward Collision Warning
5, Lane Keeping Aid with Lane Departure Warning
6, Exterior Mirror Puddle Lamps
7, One touch electric window opening
Has anyone else discovered other manufacturers taking the same route?
Rolls-canardley said:
Just cancelled an order for a new Fiesta ST-3 after becoming aware of more loss of specification due to Ford’s shortages of semiconductors. Ford dealers very unbecoming with the information, although I found out they were made aware back in September 21
Due to Ford’s chip shortages two key active safety technologies: blind-spot monitoring and rear-cross traffic alert have been removed, which were included as standard on the pre-facelift versions of the Fiesta ST-3, along with AM radio – which is also removed on the 2022 facelift Mk8.5, along with following features in the list below.
1,Exterior Mirrors - Power Fold Mirrors (Heated)
2, blind-spot monitoring and rear-cross traffic alert
3, Lock/unlock interior door switch
4, Forward Collision Warning
5, Lane Keeping Aid with Lane Departure Warning
6, Exterior Mirror Puddle Lamps
7, One touch electric window opening
Has anyone else discovered other manufacturers taking the same route?
Yes, it's been an issue for a while I believe.Due to Ford’s chip shortages two key active safety technologies: blind-spot monitoring and rear-cross traffic alert have been removed, which were included as standard on the pre-facelift versions of the Fiesta ST-3, along with AM radio – which is also removed on the 2022 facelift Mk8.5, along with following features in the list below.
1,Exterior Mirrors - Power Fold Mirrors (Heated)
2, blind-spot monitoring and rear-cross traffic alert
3, Lock/unlock interior door switch
4, Forward Collision Warning
5, Lane Keeping Aid with Lane Departure Warning
6, Exterior Mirror Puddle Lamps
7, One touch electric window opening
Has anyone else discovered other manufacturers taking the same route?
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BMW have had issues with touchscreens and also wireless charging tech. I'm not aware of any other decontenting that they are doing. Most manufacturers are giving warnings that the spec may be different on the actual models compared to the build websites.
BMW had issues earlier this year as their wiring harness were manufactured in Ukraine and there is obviously an issue at the moment. They had to set up a new facility to replace this supply. My new car is two months later than expected due to the harness issue. I suspect it may have the touchscreen as others have received them recently with this in it. Hopefully the wireless charging will be back as the build website now has this again as an option.
Regarding the Ford issue, I would not be buying that car with that spec missing.Too many things that make it a modern car, never mind the safety devices missing.
BMW had issues earlier this year as their wiring harness were manufactured in Ukraine and there is obviously an issue at the moment. They had to set up a new facility to replace this supply. My new car is two months later than expected due to the harness issue. I suspect it may have the touchscreen as others have received them recently with this in it. Hopefully the wireless charging will be back as the build website now has this again as an option.
Regarding the Ford issue, I would not be buying that car with that spec missing.Too many things that make it a modern car, never mind the safety devices missing.
Z4monster said:
BMW have had issues with touchscreens and also wireless charging tech. I'm not aware of any other decontenting that they are doing. Most manufacturers are giving warnings that the spec may be different on the actual models compared to the build websites.
BMW had issues earlier this year as their wiring harness were manufactured in Ukraine and there is obviously an issue at the moment. They had to set up a new facility to replace this supply. My new car is two months later than expected due to the harness issue. I suspect it may have the touchscreen as others have received them recently with this in it. Hopefully the wireless charging will be back as the build website now has this again as an option.
Regarding the Ford issue, I would not be buying that car with that spec missing.Too many things that make it a modern car, never mind the safety devices missing.
Totally agree with your comments concerning Ford, who’ve removed so much spec compared to the previous model, but have still increased the price by 19%BMW had issues earlier this year as their wiring harness were manufactured in Ukraine and there is obviously an issue at the moment. They had to set up a new facility to replace this supply. My new car is two months later than expected due to the harness issue. I suspect it may have the touchscreen as others have received them recently with this in it. Hopefully the wireless charging will be back as the build website now has this again as an option.
Regarding the Ford issue, I would not be buying that car with that spec missing.Too many things that make it a modern car, never mind the safety devices missing.
Rolls-canardley said:
Just cancelled an order for a new Fiesta ST-3 after becoming aware of more loss of specification due to Ford’s shortages of semiconductors. Ford dealers very unbecoming with the information, although I found out they were made aware back in September 21
Due to Ford’s chip shortages two key active safety technologies: blind-spot monitoring and rear-cross traffic alert have been removed, which were included as standard on the pre-facelift versions of the Fiesta ST-3, along with AM radio – which is also removed on the 2022 facelift Mk8.5, along with following features in the list below.
1,Exterior Mirrors - Power Fold Mirrors (Heated)
2, blind-spot monitoring and rear-cross traffic alert
3, Lock/unlock interior door switch
4, Forward Collision Warning
5, Lane Keeping Aid with Lane Departure Warning
6, Exterior Mirror Puddle Lamps
7, One touch electric window opening
Has anyone else discovered other manufacturers taking the same route?
Given that most of those options are bullsDue to Ford’s chip shortages two key active safety technologies: blind-spot monitoring and rear-cross traffic alert have been removed, which were included as standard on the pre-facelift versions of the Fiesta ST-3, along with AM radio – which is also removed on the 2022 facelift Mk8.5, along with following features in the list below.
1,Exterior Mirrors - Power Fold Mirrors (Heated)
2, blind-spot monitoring and rear-cross traffic alert
3, Lock/unlock interior door switch
4, Forward Collision Warning
5, Lane Keeping Aid with Lane Departure Warning
6, Exterior Mirror Puddle Lamps
7, One touch electric window opening
Has anyone else discovered other manufacturers taking the same route?
t, I'd say the car is better for their loss. The only things I'd not want to lose are the heated mirrors and the window opening with a single click.Rolls-canardley said:
Just cancelled an order for a new Fiesta ST-3 after becoming aware of more loss of specification due to Ford’s shortages of semiconductors. Ford dealers very unbecoming with the information, although I found out they were made aware back in September 21
Due to Ford’s chip shortages two key active safety technologies: blind-spot monitoring and rear-cross traffic alert have been removed, which were included as standard on the pre-facelift versions of the Fiesta ST-3, along with AM radio – which is also removed on the 2022 facelift Mk8.5, along with following features in the list below.
1,Exterior Mirrors - Power Fold Mirrors (Heated)
2, blind-spot monitoring and rear-cross traffic alert
3, Lock/unlock interior door switch
4, Forward Collision Warning
5, Lane Keeping Aid with Lane Departure Warning
6, Exterior Mirror Puddle Lamps
7, One touch electric window opening
Has anyone else discovered other manufacturers taking the same route?
Several of those items would have insurance implications - I wonder if insurers are aware of this?Due to Ford’s chip shortages two key active safety technologies: blind-spot monitoring and rear-cross traffic alert have been removed, which were included as standard on the pre-facelift versions of the Fiesta ST-3, along with AM radio – which is also removed on the 2022 facelift Mk8.5, along with following features in the list below.
1,Exterior Mirrors - Power Fold Mirrors (Heated)
2, blind-spot monitoring and rear-cross traffic alert
3, Lock/unlock interior door switch
4, Forward Collision Warning
5, Lane Keeping Aid with Lane Departure Warning
6, Exterior Mirror Puddle Lamps
7, One touch electric window opening
Has anyone else discovered other manufacturers taking the same route?
Sheepshanks said:
Rolls-canardley said:
Just cancelled an order for a new Fiesta ST-3 after becoming aware of more loss of specification due to Ford’s shortages of semiconductors. Ford dealers very unbecoming with the information, although I found out they were made aware back in September 21
Due to Ford’s chip shortages two key active safety technologies: blind-spot monitoring and rear-cross traffic alert have been removed, which were included as standard on the pre-facelift versions of the Fiesta ST-3, along with AM radio – which is also removed on the 2022 facelift Mk8.5, along with following features in the list below.
1,Exterior Mirrors - Power Fold Mirrors (Heated)
2, blind-spot monitoring and rear-cross traffic alert
3, Lock/unlock interior door switch
4, Forward Collision Warning
5, Lane Keeping Aid with Lane Departure Warning
6, Exterior Mirror Puddle Lamps
7, One touch electric window opening
Has anyone else discovered other manufacturers taking the same route?
Several of those items would have insurance implications - I wonder if insurers are aware of this?Due to Ford’s chip shortages two key active safety technologies: blind-spot monitoring and rear-cross traffic alert have been removed, which were included as standard on the pre-facelift versions of the Fiesta ST-3, along with AM radio – which is also removed on the 2022 facelift Mk8.5, along with following features in the list below.
1,Exterior Mirrors - Power Fold Mirrors (Heated)
2, blind-spot monitoring and rear-cross traffic alert
3, Lock/unlock interior door switch
4, Forward Collision Warning
5, Lane Keeping Aid with Lane Departure Warning
6, Exterior Mirror Puddle Lamps
7, One touch electric window opening
Has anyone else discovered other manufacturers taking the same route?
Disappointed for you, and makes buying used in the future a real PITA. Can this be checked on ETIS and is ETIS still even public?
Most people are mindful of the global situation but like someone else said, the concessions shouldn't all be on the consumer. If I didn't need a car with that many cuts, I'd cancel and make the dealer aware of the reason because that's the only way change would happen - however everyone is different and I understand why someone would just go ahead.
2. I thought this system was very neat and unobtrusive in the Fiesta. Again, it would matter to me. This is an everyday car, not a track car.
3. Umm, depends where you're driving
4. Not convinced by these systems but interesting insurers don't kick up a fuss about such spec being dropped
5. Likewise it all depends on the implementation. I drove an i10 recently with these features and they were utter cack. If implemented right, I see their value.
6. Really doesn't matter does it? What practical reason is there for these? Am I missing a clear reason why they exist?
7. Gah. Annoying. Not the end of the world, but almost the most annoying given it's been around so long.
Most people are mindful of the global situation but like someone else said, the concessions shouldn't all be on the consumer. If I didn't need a car with that many cuts, I'd cancel and make the dealer aware of the reason because that's the only way change would happen - however everyone is different and I understand why someone would just go ahead.
Rolls-canardley said:
1,Exterior Mirrors - Power Fold Mirrors (Heated)
2, blind-spot monitoring and rear-cross traffic alert
3, Lock/unlock interior door switch
4, Forward Collision Warning
5, Lane Keeping Aid with Lane Departure Warning
6, Exterior Mirror Puddle Lamps
7, One touch electric window opening
1. This would matter to me. They do help in some situations, the heating especially!2, blind-spot monitoring and rear-cross traffic alert
3, Lock/unlock interior door switch
4, Forward Collision Warning
5, Lane Keeping Aid with Lane Departure Warning
6, Exterior Mirror Puddle Lamps
7, One touch electric window opening
2. I thought this system was very neat and unobtrusive in the Fiesta. Again, it would matter to me. This is an everyday car, not a track car.
3. Umm, depends where you're driving
4. Not convinced by these systems but interesting insurers don't kick up a fuss about such spec being dropped
5. Likewise it all depends on the implementation. I drove an i10 recently with these features and they were utter cack. If implemented right, I see their value.
6. Really doesn't matter does it? What practical reason is there for these? Am I missing a clear reason why they exist?
7. Gah. Annoying. Not the end of the world, but almost the most annoying given it's been around so long.
stanglish said:
Earthdweller said:
Removal of most of that ste should be counted as a blessing
Boring. Its a sodding Fiesta, not a Caterham. te should be counted as a blessing I’ve had four of them over the years starting with a 1979 950 popular, none had any of that .. modern cars are way too complex and full of expensive and unnecessary tech
I’m going to get a little ranty here…
I really like a simple car. I have a Caterham and love it and I’ve had numerous classics over the years.
I’m not a fan of all the modern paraphernalia but I appreciate it is what most people want and I understand that I have to move with the times.
However…
Three years ago, if I had said to Ford, I don’t want this and I don’t want that and I certainly don’t need a touch screen, they would have said, “Tough.” They wouldn’t have offered a solution and they certainly wouldn’t have offered a discount.
Now, they are saying you can’t have this and you can’t have that (fine for me but not for most of their customers who don’t want a Caterham!) and they are charging a premium!
Surely customers deserve better. If you’ve laid for a specification and it can’t be delivered, surely there should be a reduction in price
I really like a simple car. I have a Caterham and love it and I’ve had numerous classics over the years.
I’m not a fan of all the modern paraphernalia but I appreciate it is what most people want and I understand that I have to move with the times.
However…
Three years ago, if I had said to Ford, I don’t want this and I don’t want that and I certainly don’t need a touch screen, they would have said, “Tough.” They wouldn’t have offered a solution and they certainly wouldn’t have offered a discount.
Now, they are saying you can’t have this and you can’t have that (fine for me but not for most of their customers who don’t want a Caterham!) and they are charging a premium!
Surely customers deserve better. If you’ve laid for a specification and it can’t be delivered, surely there should be a reduction in price
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