What’s the “range” of a police force?
What’s the “range” of a police force?
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anonymous-user

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83 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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Idle curiosity.

Yesterday afternoon driving back towards London on the M3.

A tall vehicle was coming up fast in L3, blue lights flashing and headlights alternating. I assumed it was an ambulance to begin with, but no. It was a Met Police Ford Tourneo. A quick experiment once it had passed suggested it was doing at least a ton, clearing a very effective swathe through L3 traffic.

It’s always a bit hard to pinpoint where one is between junctions but a couple of minutes later Old Basing popped up on the satnav, which is over 30 miles outside the M25.

What is a Met Police van doing that far outside London, hurtling back towards London with blue lights on, on a Sunday afternoon? No other police vehicles around.

It almost felt like they’d got massively lost then when they realised just how far they’d strayed, they whacked on the blues to get back home asap. But I doubt that’s really it.

anonymous-user

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83 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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Met can operate anywhere in the country when necessary.

edthefed

827 posts

96 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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Any police officer in an English force is a police officer throughout the country there is no "ramge"

covboy

2,593 posts

203 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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Visions of the baddies heading for the County border to avoid arrest biggrin

Scrump

23,933 posts

187 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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edthefed said:
Any police officer in an English force is a police officer throughout the country there is no "ramge"
Only if they are in hot pursuit

Greendubber

15,261 posts

232 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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We can and do go all over the country, we'll often help out other forces with our specialist stuff so get to travel all over the place. North Devon being the most recent, ice creams on the beach for lunch smile

theboss

7,502 posts

248 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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What about BTP and CNC - can they do 'regular' stuff as well?

I was behind a BTP liveried car which was in the middle lane of the M5 fluctuating its speed annoyingly but always speeding up to 70+ when anyone tried to idle past it. In the end I took a gamble that he wouldn't do anything if I just tore past him, and sure enough he didn't.

Drumroll

4,509 posts

149 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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When we were interviewed after the JCMR fatalities we were interviewed by 2 Scottish Police traffic officers who had come down to Yorkshire in a fully liveried BMW area car.

Jamescrs

6,366 posts

94 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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Any English police officer have the same powers anywhere in England and Wales. The met are no different.

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

208 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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Jamescrs said:
Any English police officer have the same powers anywhere in England and Wales. The met are no different.
Unless on a known operation that the area force is aware the accepted operating procedure as I remember it is that police will travel into neighbouring police areas.


Now it’s often common for units such as road policing to be tri force and so they have this marked on vehicles and may travel to operations all over those areas.

As said the g26 or major Operations like events police can be drafted from all over.

blank

3,761 posts

217 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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theboss said:
What about BTP and CNC - can they do 'regular' stuff as well?
I always thought CNC had no jurisdiction in "regular" situations, although I'm sure if they came across something serious they'd help.

They are almost always armed though so careful what you try!

take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey

7,859 posts

84 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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blank said:
theboss said:
What about BTP and CNC - can they do 'regular' stuff as well?
I always thought CNC had no jurisdiction in "regular" situations, although I'm sure if they came across something serious they'd help.

They are almost always armed though so careful what you try!
CNC Sellafield deployed for the Derick Bird shooting in Cumbria.

blank

3,761 posts

217 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey said:
blank said:
theboss said:
What about BTP and CNC - can they do 'regular' stuff as well?
I always thought CNC had no jurisdiction in "regular" situations, although I'm sure if they came across something serious they'd help.

They are almost always armed though so careful what you try!
CNC Sellafield deployed for the Derick Bird shooting in Cumbria.
True. Shame he didn't try and get onto site really as it would have been over a lot quicker!

theboss

7,502 posts

248 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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blank said:
theboss said:
What about BTP and CNC - can they do 'regular' stuff as well?
I always thought CNC had no jurisdiction in "regular" situations, although I'm sure if they came across something serious they'd help.

They are almost always armed though so careful what you try!
I figured they had all the power/authority to act but would probably be sticking to an agenda that didn't have much time for every day traffic offences!

808 Estate

2,664 posts

120 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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blank said:
I always thought CNC had no jurisdiction in "regular" situations, although I'm sure if they came across something serious they'd help.

They are almost always armed though so careful what you try!
I believe they do regular stuff if they come across it, but then hand over to the local boys to avoid the paperwork.

Bigends

6,153 posts

157 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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Travelled to, and Policed footy grounds all over the UK. . Likewise, a visiting clubs home force would reciprocate by sending their officers to our force on matchdays - not sure if this arrangement is still in place between forces

FredericRobinson

5,031 posts

261 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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Bigends said:
Travelled to, and Policed footy grounds all over the UK. . Likewise, a visiting clubs home force would reciprocate by sending their officers to our force on matchdays - not sure if this arrangement is still in place between forces
Still the case

valiant

14,141 posts

189 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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Potentially silly question but something today got me thinking.

A fully liveried military police car that was pretty indistinguishable from a normal police Skoda except for ‘Military Police’ written on the side where you’d normally only see ‘Police’ written was thundering along (driving standards way, way below what you’d expect and normally see from regular plod) but could they act as normal police if they come across an event like an accident, see some criminal behaviour or simply a speeding motorist?

Do they have any power over civilians and could you simply drive off if they did try and pull you over or can you carry on burgling if they come across you?

CloudStuff

4,248 posts

133 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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https://www.gov.uk/guidance/ministry-of-defence-po...

One of the benefits of living near AWE, plenty of police floating around here and the MOD police do have jurisdiction.

They often set up speed traps in the village.

Always good to see them around:

quinny100

1,013 posts

215 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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808 Estate said:
I believe they do regular stuff if they come across it, but then hand over to the local boys to avoid the paperwork.
CNC round here patrol miles away from the nuclear facility. They particularly like doing drink drivers. They post at least a couple a week on Facebook.