What is this ship?
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https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.7440558,-0.29459...
Is it s trimaran set up? (multi-hull setup), and it looks like its in navy colours.
Is it s trimaran set up? (multi-hull setup), and it looks like its in navy colours.
Yep, That's the Triton
Yours for €2.5m if you're interested
https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/2000-vosper-thorn...
Go in with your size 10s on and offer them €2m and negotiate a tank of fuel in the deal
Yours for €2.5m if you're interested
https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/2000-vosper-thorn...
Go in with your size 10s on and offer them €2m and negotiate a tank of fuel in the deal
Edited by FatboyKim on Wednesday 1st June 14:35
Article seems a bit out of date. The Independence class LCS boats are larger. Is that recent? Is it for sale just now? Or is that an old page?
Also, for the life of me, I cannot see it on google maps? I've tried that link a dozen times in case it was taking me to the wrong place?!
Also, for the life of me, I cannot see it on google maps? I've tried that link a dozen times in case it was taking me to the wrong place?!
Edited by thewarlock on Wednesday 1st June 14:44
So I read that it was a reasearch ship for the Navy to look at being a Frigate class of boat.
A frigate being something that is a relatively fast, maneuverable, support ship that also has the ability to deploy weapons such as missile defence and anti-submarine operations? (I often struggle to work out military ship classifications, so my description probably needs correction)
So the 3-hull design is likely looking for stability on the waters, although it will likely have less speed and range than mono-hull due to having to drag three hulls through water.
A frigate being something that is a relatively fast, maneuverable, support ship that also has the ability to deploy weapons such as missile defence and anti-submarine operations? (I often struggle to work out military ship classifications, so my description probably needs correction)
So the 3-hull design is likely looking for stability on the waters, although it will likely have less speed and range than mono-hull due to having to drag three hulls through water.
GroundZero said:
So I read that it was a reasearch ship for the Navy to look at being a Frigate class of boat.
A frigate being something that is a relatively fast, maneuverable, support ship that also has the ability to deploy weapons such as missile defence and anti-submarine operations? (I often struggle to work out military ship classifications, so my description probably needs correction)
So the 3-hull design is likely looking for stability on the waters, although it will likely have less speed and range than mono-hull due to having to drag three hulls through water.
VT built it as a sort of technology demonstrator for FCS (Future Combat Ship), which went on to become GCS (Global Combat Ship), AKA Type 26 Frigate.A frigate being something that is a relatively fast, maneuverable, support ship that also has the ability to deploy weapons such as missile defence and anti-submarine operations? (I often struggle to work out military ship classifications, so my description probably needs correction)
So the 3-hull design is likely looking for stability on the waters, although it will likely have less speed and range than mono-hull due to having to drag three hulls through water.
I work in shipbuilding/design, but I'm fairly strictly structural, with a bit of mechanical, I'm not a naval architect, but basically, trimaran designs can offer better seakeeping and stability than a monohull, but have a greater wetted area as you say, so more drag.
You also loose a lot of buoyant volume/tankage, as the lower 1500-2000mm of most ships are tanks, so lack of tankage and extra drag affects range.
Also, the centre hull which is usually the only one that extends all the way forward is likely to be more slender than that of a monohull, which can lead to bow trim problems; just about every naval design I've worked on has ended up with a variant of the same problem.
They make them thin and pointy at the front so they cut through the water. But the structure also tends to be heavier here, as bow slamming is a consideration, you've probably seen videos of naval ships bashing through waves that look like they'd snap most boats in half. Then you carry a load of chain in your chain locker, for anchoring.
Then, you smack a large gun, complete with autoload system, large storage magazine and all that associated weight at the front
thewarlock said:
GroundZero said:
Its in the Hull dockyards (just to the west of the Ferry terminal) if the link isn't working.
Bizarre, I still cannot see it. dundarach said:
It's stealth technology is epic, buggered if I can see it?
Not sure what's happening with your google maps but its 1km west of the docked Hull-Rotterdam ferry and its in the 2nd wet dock from the left.Very strange looking boat from above.
Also notice how many bleeding wind turbines are scattered around, big business for those invested in climate change!
GroundZero said:
Not sure what's happening with your google maps but its 1km west of the docked Hull-Rotterdam ferry and its in the 2nd wet dock from the left.
Very strange looking boat from above.
Also notice how many bleeding wind turbines are scattered around, big business for those invested in climate change!
Very strange looking boat from above.
Also notice how many bleeding wind turbines are scattered around, big business for those invested in climate change!
thewarlock said:
GroundZero said:
Not sure what's happening with your google maps but its 1km west of the docked Hull-Rotterdam ferry and its in the 2nd wet dock from the left.
Very strange looking boat from above.
Also notice how many bleeding wind turbines are scattered around, big business for those invested in climate change!
Very strange looking boat from above.
Also notice how many bleeding wind turbines are scattered around, big business for those invested in climate change!
FatboyKim said:
Yep, That's the Triton
Yours for €2.5m if you're interested
https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/2000-vosper-thorn...
Go in with your size 10s on and offer them €2m and negotiate a tank of fuel in the deal
If i ever win the lottery this is the sort of crap i hope i'd buy .Yours for €2.5m if you're interested
https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/2000-vosper-thorn...
Go in with your size 10s on and offer them €2m and negotiate a tank of fuel in the deal
Edited by FatboyKim on Wednesday 1st June 14:35
thewarlock said:
VT built it as a sort of technology demonstrator for FCS (Future Combat Ship), which went on to become GCS (Global Combat Ship), AKA Type 26 Frigate.
I work in shipbuilding/design, but I'm fairly strictly structural, with a bit of mechanical, I'm not a naval architect, but basically, trimaran designs can offer better seakeeping and stability than a monohull, but have a greater wetted area as you say, so more drag.
You also loose a lot of buoyant volume/tankage, as the lower 1500-2000mm of most ships are tanks, so lack of tankage and extra drag affects range.
Also, the centre hull which is usually the only one that extends all the way forward is likely to be more slender than that of a monohull, which can lead to bow trim problems; just about every naval design I've worked on has ended up with a variant of the same problem.
They make them thin and pointy at the front so they cut through the water. But the structure also tends to be heavier here, as bow slamming is a consideration, you've probably seen videos of naval ships bashing through waves that look like they'd snap most boats in half. Then you carry a load of chain in your chain locker, for anchoring.
Then, you smack a large gun, complete with autoload system, large storage magazine and all that associated weight at the front
Is the VT vessel similar to the American Independence class LCS? I watched a YouTube vid about how they’re suffering from serious structural issues associated with being made from aluminium and utilising a trimaran design. Not sure how on the money the guy in the video was.I work in shipbuilding/design, but I'm fairly strictly structural, with a bit of mechanical, I'm not a naval architect, but basically, trimaran designs can offer better seakeeping and stability than a monohull, but have a greater wetted area as you say, so more drag.
You also loose a lot of buoyant volume/tankage, as the lower 1500-2000mm of most ships are tanks, so lack of tankage and extra drag affects range.
Also, the centre hull which is usually the only one that extends all the way forward is likely to be more slender than that of a monohull, which can lead to bow trim problems; just about every naval design I've worked on has ended up with a variant of the same problem.
They make them thin and pointy at the front so they cut through the water. But the structure also tends to be heavier here, as bow slamming is a consideration, you've probably seen videos of naval ships bashing through waves that look like they'd snap most boats in half. Then you carry a load of chain in your chain locker, for anchoring.
Then, you smack a large gun, complete with autoload system, large storage magazine and all that associated weight at the front
wolfracesonic said:
Is the VT vessel similar to the American Independence class LCS? I watched a YouTube vid about how they’re suffering from serious structural issues associated with being made from aluminium and utilising a trimaran design. Not sure how on the money the guy in the video was.
This thing is like an MX-5 compared to the Ferrari Indepdence class. They are ~30m longer, go more than twice as fast, much better armed.And yes, they had issues with welds cracking, mostly as a result of operating at higher speeds and in bigger seas; the hydrostatic and hydrodynamic pressures acting on the hull, particularly in high stress (in way of openings, sharp corners, house ends and the like) causes the welds to fail prematurely.
They've retired a few of them early, they also had galvanic corrosion issues with the aluminium structure and steel pump jets, and resolving the issues was deemed too expensive.
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