Car tyres produce more particle pollution than exhausts
Car tyres produce more particle pollution than exhausts
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Cascade360

Original Poster:

11,631 posts

114 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jun/0...

Time to regulate car weights rather than ULEZ zones?

jjones

4,489 posts

222 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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All cars have tyres, nice easy taxation target.

georgeyboy12345

4,615 posts

64 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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Time to get these god awful SUVs off the road

Draxindustries1

1,657 posts

52 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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Time to start filling tyres with hydrogen..16 times lighter than air..


PositronicRay

28,997 posts

212 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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"Simplify, then add lightness"

Well who could have said that then? scratchchin

Slow

6,973 posts

166 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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georgeyboy12345 said:
Time to get these god awful SUVs off the road
No thank you. Higher seating position, offroad ability, towing trailers and just a nice place to be.

Pica-Pica

16,588 posts

113 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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Yup. Tyre particle emissions have been known for some time, largely swept under the carpet (metaphorically).

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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Who would have thought it, tyres wearing out produces small particulates.

Weight is one part of equation but miles driven is the other major factor, what is the point of taxing a heavy car that does a few miles v the lighter car that is doing tens of thousands of miles.

Putting a tax on tyres paid at purchase makes more sense, use more tyres which creates more particulates means buying more tyres and paying more tax for it.

DaveCWK

2,402 posts

203 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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This story should be phrased as "Look at how good modern cars are - the emissions from combustion are now so low that its the poxy tyres that are responsible for the most pollution"

But nope, it's all to the tone of how awful is this, cancer that, something has to be done etc.

Once the tyre problem is 'solved' it will be the next insignificant thing in line. "Car scratch repair deemed immoral; fresh paint off-gassing that occurs for circa 1 month following an accident repair found to be a major contributor to VOC emissions"

Dynion Araf Uchaf

5,174 posts

252 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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it's just more angst for the car haters. Once cars are electric these people should have no complain about them, in which case they shouldn't be taxed and all transport restrictions on car usage should be lifted.


Not so fast.... tyre pollution.
And then when they fix that....

brake dust pollution...

and when they fix that...

georgeyboy12345

4,615 posts

64 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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Slow said:
georgeyboy12345 said:
Time to get these god awful SUVs off the road
No thank you. Higher seating position, offroad ability, towing trailers and just a nice place to be.
I like the high seating position = I have no confidence in driving on the roads

They never go offroad

Proper cars can also tow and are nicer to drive.

stu vxr

282 posts

136 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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Cascade360 said:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jun/0...

Time to regulate car weights rather than ULEZ zones?
Nothing new here, it's been reported now for a long time, the weight of the new generation of EVs is frightening and they are getting bigger.

I am not anti EV by the way common sense has to prevail moving forward.

Pica-Pica

16,588 posts

113 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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DaveCWK said:
This story should be phrased as "Look at how good modern cars are - the emissions from combustion are now so low that its the poxy tyres that are responsible for the most pollution"

But nope, it's all to the tone of how awful is this, cancer that, something has to be done etc.

Once the tyre problem is 'solved' it will be the next insignificant thing in line. "Car scratch repair deemed immoral; fresh paint off-gassing that occurs for circa 1 month following an accident repair found to be a major contributor to VOC emissions"
I thought VOC from paint was reduced ages ago. It certainly has been in manufacture, and reputable respray places.

Slow

6,973 posts

166 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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georgeyboy12345 said:
Slow said:
georgeyboy12345 said:
Time to get these god awful SUVs off the road
No thank you. Higher seating position, offroad ability, towing trailers and just a nice place to be.
I like the high seating position = I have no confidence in driving on the roads

They never go offroad

Proper cars can also tow and are nicer to drive.
I like it because I am tall so getting in is much easier. I can also see over the hedges and stuff to overtake where I cannot in my lower cars.

I go offroad all the time.

Which "proper" car will tow 3.5 tons? I either get a suv or a transit.

Debaser

8,442 posts

290 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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georgeyboy12345 said:
Time to get these god awful SUVs off the road
Oh fk off.

RECr

539 posts

80 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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"Fewer cars are the solution, what is the problem?"

Fat hippo

741 posts

163 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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I’m wondering if the government end up taxing based on number of wheels, then Reliant Robins are going to become very sought after biggrin

Or if they tax on tyre width then i3s will keep on increasing in value

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

262 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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RECr said:
"Fewer cars are the solution, what is the problem?"
Typically -

. road safety
. climate change
. air pollution
. any other pollution we can think of

repeat.

Draxindustries1

1,657 posts

52 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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Debaser said:
georgeyboy12345 said:
Time to get these god awful SUVs off the road
Oh fk off.
He does have a point though
Nearly all cars are suv. Bland as hell and 90% look virtually the same. There's no individualism in them , everyone and his dog has one..

Leon R

3,866 posts

125 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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Draxindustries1 said:
Debaser said:
georgeyboy12345 said:
Time to get these god awful SUVs off the road
Oh fk off.
He does have a point though
Nearly all cars are suv. Bland as hell and 90% look virtually the same. There's no individualism in them , everyone and his dog has one..
Nearly ALL cars are SUVs?