RE: Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale | Spotted
RE: Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale | Spotted
Thursday 16th June 2022

Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale | Spotted

The supercar track toy was a new phenomenon 20 years ago - and they didn't come much more super than a CS...


Limited edition Ferraris are so commonplace now that they’re starting to lose their edge a bit. Sure, you need to be a crypto tycoon and have already owned many, many other Ferraris for the company to even consider inviting you to buy something with a Speciale badge, but take a walk around Mayfair and chances are there won’t be a ‘standard’ Ferrari in sight.  

How different it was a couple of decades ago, where the only real special edition Ferraris were an F40 or F50 – or you were the Sultan of Brunei and got the company to build you a one-off. Then there were race cars for the street like the 348 GT Competizione and F355 Challenge, of which only a handful were made and even fewer were road legal. That was, of course, until the Challenge Stradale arrived in 2003.  

Granted, the 360 CS was launched in a similar vein to the company’s race-to-road models. The single-make 360 Challenge competition car was the inspiration, only Ferrari put a greater emphasis on road dynamics (the rough plan was to make 80 per cent of it optimised for road use and 20 per cent for track). It’s the formula we’re all familiar with today with the 488 Pista and 812 Competizione - but the 360 CS was where it all began.  

Don’t think the 360 CS was a softie, though. Go for the most hardcore spec and you’ll save 110kg (down to 1,280kg) over the standard 360 thanks to carbon-backed bucket seats, radio delete and Lexan plastic windows with a tiny sliding hatch just about big enough for a Big Mac at the drive thru. The door cards are a single mould of carbon fibre with a bit of material serving as a door handle, while the centre console is basically just carbon box with a few buttons on for the transmission. 

Ah yes, here’s the bit that – to some – makes the 360 CS just shy of perfect: it was only available from factory with a six-speed F1 automated gearbox. This was very much the era where Ferrari tried to jam as much of its Formula 1 tech into a car as possible and a manual was never officially offered. Word on the street is the ‘box is great in race mode, so don’t dismiss the F1 system if an automated manual puts you off.  

On the plus side, the hi-tech route Ferrari was experimenting with at the time means you get some top-drawer components, including ceramic brakes from the Enzo. It’s rounded off with a lightweight body kit that provided an extra 40kg of downforce on track. Also, a word on those extraordinary rims. They’re inspired by the racing car and, to our eyes at least, have a close connection to BBS Challenge wheels that look good on pretty much anything.  

This example is the ideal 360 CS if you want some creature comforts while hammering around Brands Hatch on a Sunday afternoon. You get a radio, proper windows (no need to worry about the letterbox hatch) and leather seats instead of the racier Alcantara option. It’s a pretty understated spec, too. The Argento Nurburgring paint highlights the sleekness of the 360, while the deletion of the centre stripe means you need to look closely to see whether it’s a CS. Or you could, you know, just look at the back. Or those wheels. 

Over 1,200 examples of the 360 CS were made, meaning it’s limited enough to be considered special but not so rare it costs a million pounds. This one is listed for £187,950 with 30,600 miles on the clock, so it’s covered just enough ground to take it on a trip to Italy without worry. Taking in every track day possible on the way, of course. 


SPECIFICATION | FERRARI 360 CHALLENGE STRADALE 

Engine: 3,598cc, V8Transmission: Six-speed F1 automated manual, rear-wheel drivePower (hp): 425@8,500rpmTorque (lb ft): 275@4,750rpmMPG: N/ACO2: N/AYear registered: 2003Recorded miles: 30,600Price new: £133,025Yours for: £187,950

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whp1983

Original Poster:

1,409 posts

170 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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What a machine, most memorable car I’ve driven- sound is immense….. and to think at one point they were £60k when unloved in recession

WCZ

11,566 posts

225 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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they sound insane, they are so loud! it's hard to even get one on a track day

400kg lighter than a 296 smile

I think they are good value for money too, for some reason the market isn't quite as nuts about them in comparison to the 458 spec

daytona111r

913 posts

235 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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One of my favourites. Those subtle but hard edged nostrils are pukka

Iamnotkloot

1,918 posts

178 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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Nice wheels.

Is the 'F1 automated manual' as bad as the internet thinks?

Dombilano

1,477 posts

86 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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Historically I'd preferred the F430 that followed, but in recent years the 360 has looked prettier to my eyes, especially with the CS wheels.

rampageturke

2,625 posts

193 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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Wonderful car, and in a colour where the paint-matched headlights look good. The F430 was nice, but it never really struck me like the 360 did. I think I just grew up at the right time for the 360 to be "that car" that I fawned over (well, it was actually the F50, but I associate the 360 and F50 together regularly)

I would like to share this video from savagegeese, they recently did a review of a Ferrari 360, and they absolutely nail it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuwO2lUmEA0

Edited by rampageturke on Thursday 16th June 14:17

pSyCoSiS

4,339 posts

236 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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Superb machine. Pure and purposeful. N/A screaming V8 engine tones.

pSyCoSiS

4,339 posts

236 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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Iamnotkloot said:
Nice wheels.

Is the 'F1 automated manual' as bad as the internet thinks?
I have a similar gearbox in my QP, and I really like it and so far seems reliable. Internet does make you think it's worse than they actually are in practice.

They drive much nicer in manual mode as opposed to auto, which just feels a bit dim witted.

In comparison, the SMG in the M6 is jerkier around town and at lower speeds, but lighting fast when on song. F1 gearbox feels better at slower speeds, but not as sharp as the SMG when giving it full throttle.

Each person will have they own opinion, and of course the ZF full autos are generally more reliable with longer lifespans. For me, the F1 gearbox adds to the allure of the car and gives it the unique character.

hu8742

377 posts

156 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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Best sounding Ferrari I've ever heard by a mile.

Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

272 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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I had a go around a runway circuit in one of these, alongside many other cars in the same setting.

I thought the gearbox was fine for the type of car.

Lovely engine, interior, sound, yadda yadda.

Drove a standard 360 there too and it felt a bit shoddy in comparison.

996.2 GT3 was a more interesting drive because it was manual gearbox, but the 360 CS felt far sweeter to drive in those 5 minutes in it.


I always said I’d have a 360CS over a 360 if I could get either but yeah… prices now.

I still fancy buying a Spider and buying all the CS bits. TDF blue with stripes plz.

Filibuster

3,406 posts

246 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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Iamnotkloot said:
Nice wheels.

Is the 'F1 automated manual' as bad as the internet thinks?
I haven't driven this one personally, but I have driven Maseratis and a Vanquish.
These are manual gearboxes. Do not use them in auto mode and treat them as you would a manual. Creeping in traffic isn't their party trick, but other than that they are absolutely fine!

wong

1,449 posts

247 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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Considered a 360 or 993 during my midlife crisis when living in Hong Kong. Went with a 993 C4S mainly because I found one for sale first. Still have a hankering for these though.

georgeyboy12345

4,657 posts

66 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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Was the CS available with a manual?

liamthedude

57 posts

163 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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2 great facts about the CS

It has the same brakes as the Enzo.

It is the loudest production Ferrari to leave Maranello (decibels).

Slippydiff

16,482 posts

254 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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Iamnotkloot said:
Nice wheels.

Is the 'F1 automated manual' as bad as the internet thinks?
The clue is in those four words smile
Just like the M3 CSL’s ‘box, the change needs finessing, and once that process has been mastered, the transmission becomes completely intuitive and a pleasure to use (all the moreso as you have to work at it to finesse it).


Charlie_1

1,069 posts

123 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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As someone else mentioned at the time I wasnt that struck , look at it now I think ooh yes please but sadly its now out of my price range frown

liamthedude

57 posts

163 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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Mr Whippy said:
I still fancy buying a Spider and buying all the CS bits. TDF blue with stripes plz.
Ratarossa literally just finished a series on doing exactly this on YouTube. Apart from is it was red, not TDF blue.

Maccmike8

1,615 posts

85 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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Thats how Ferraris should look.

wpa1975

14,827 posts

145 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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liamthedude said:
Mr Whippy said:
I still fancy buying a Spider and buying all the CS bits. TDF blue with stripes plz.
Ratarossa literally just finished a series on doing exactly this on YouTube. Apart from is it was red, not TDF blue.
From what I understand it is almost impossible to get all the parts to convert a non CS to CS spec plus they are a lot more different than people appreciate.

I cannot find the thread now but someone listed all the different parts.

The only way Ratarossa was able to build the Spider conversion was by stripping a complete CS down and swapping all the parts over which struck me as a complete waste of a genuine 360 CS

I have always been torn between these and the F430 Scuderia

HJG

663 posts

138 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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Has aged nicely. Have always loved the rear view.