Helicopter crashes in field near Burton in Lonsdale.

[jbswagger]

Helicopter crashes in field near Burton in Lonsdale.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-y...

[ghost83]

Wonder what it was

[Eric Mc]

Doesn't look good from those pictures.

[normalbloke]

ghost83 said:

Wonder what it was

Gravity. It’s relentless.

[Tony1963]

Two killed, so joke away

[normalbloke]

Tony1963 said:

Two killed, so joke away

I thought it less tasteless than the conjecture and speculation that usually follows such questions, however I understand your handwringing.

[Tony1963]

Wow

[ghost83]

I meant wonder what helicopter it was and it’s reg and also who onviously

[ruggedscotty]

normalbloke said:

Tony1963 said:

Two killed, so joke away

I thought it less tasteless than the conjecture and speculation that usually follows such questions, however I understand your handwringing.

badass answer....
no ?

or maybe just a troll....

def not normal by any manner or means... but crack on with your misunderstanding of handwringing....

[48k]

It has come down by some trees at the edge of open fields by a holiday park. It looks to be R22 / Cabri-G2 -sized. Weather was good, no other traffic in the immediate area.
Some news outlets reporting that someone jumped out before it hit the ground.
Very sad.

[Eric Mc]

I suspected a Robinson of some sort but haven't seen any details yet.

[Siko]

I tried playing back Flightradar24 for the period of the accident and it didn't show anything so I assume it was something small too.

[take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey]

Question for the more informed.

Robinsons seem over represented when it comes to crashing.

Is this just my perception, the fact they're piloted by the inexperienced, or are they quite tricky / twitchy things?

[Eric Mc]

They are very common. The Robinson family of helicopters are relatively cheap compared to most helicopters. They are mostly piston engined rather than turbine powered. As a result, they are popular with flying schools.

[Siko]

take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey said:

Question for the more informed.

Robinsons seem over represented when it comes to crashing.

Is this just my perception, the fact they're piloted by the inexperienced, or are they quite tricky / twitchy things?

It's a bit like saying that Ford and Vauxhall cars are over-represented in total numbers of car accidents compared to Porsche and Ferrari They are very common and often flown by very inexperienced pilots. Like any helicopter they can bite.....

[RobbyJ]

Yes I had a look on FR24 playback and Planefinder playback and could see nothing. Couldn't even see the air ambulance so coverage must be poor there.

I too was interested in the reg and type.

The best photo I could find was this one:



It looks two bladed which narrows it down. Possibly a Bell 206 Jet Ranger but that's slightly educated speculation. Doesn't look like a Robinson, looks too big to be a G2. Could possibly be an H125 but I can't see a third rotor and the tail empennage looks too skinny. Looking at the damage to the trees it looks to have gone in very hard too.

RIP to the souls on board.

[take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey]

Siko said:

take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey said:

Question for the more informed.

Robinsons seem over represented when it comes to crashing.

Is this just my perception, the fact they're piloted by the inexperienced, or are they quite tricky / twitchy things?

It's a bit like saying that Ford and Vauxhall cars are over-represented in total numbers of car accidents compared to Porsche and Ferrari They are very common and often flown by very inexperienced pilots. Like any helicopter they can bite.....

Thanks Siko (and Eric). I know they're common - in fact one has just flown over my house coincidentally.

I was wondering whether being light and simple made them harder to fly. Like a small dinghy vs yacht. You learn in a dinghy... But even with experience you often end up upside down.

[Eric Mc]

Not a bad analogy. They are light and completely manual - so they do wobble about a bit. I've seen trainees trying to hover at Blackbushe and it's quite fun to see them stirring the control yoke like porridge in an effort to keep it steady.

[Simpo Two]

Eric Mc said:

Not a bad analogy. They are light and completely manual - so they do wobble about a bit. I've seen trainees trying to hover at Blackbushe and it's quite fun to see them stirring the control yoke like porridge in an effort to keep it steady.

Cold it not have some kind of gyro-feedback-dampening-out system to make it less twitchy?

[Eric Mc]

Wouldn't have a clue. The whole ethos of the Robinson family of helicopters is that they are kept simple.