Insurance writing off car, what to do?
Insurance writing off car, what to do?
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skilly1

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2,910 posts

226 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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We have a 62 plate Nissan Qashqai, worth about £3500.

It was hit in the rear by another car whist stationary at lights. The driver of the other car and their insurance company have admitted liability.

Their insurance company wants to write it off and give us £3400, or they will put it as a CAT S and sell it back to us, and give us £2400 on top.

The damage is superficial, bent bumper, which we won't repair. I have had it checked over by a garage for structural damage and there is none. It was only a 15mph hit, and most was taken by the towbar.

We need the car for another 6-8 months as we have a new car coming and I'm thinking of the CAT S route. We then sell it when the new car arrives, hopefully for more than £1000 - Any thoughts?


CarCrazyDad

4,280 posts

66 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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skilly1 said:
We have a 62 plate Nissan Qashqai, worth about £3500.

It was hit in the rear by another car whist stationary at lights. The driver of the other car and their insurance company have admitted liability.

Their insurance company wants to write it off and give us £3400, or they will put it as a CAT S and sell it back to us, and give us £2400 on top.

The damage is superficial, bent bumper, which we won't repair. I have had it checked over by a garage for structural damage and there is none. It was only a 15mph hit, and most was taken by the towbar.

We need the car for another 6-8 months as we have a new car coming and I'm thinking of the CAT S route. We then sell it when the new car arrives, hopefully for more than £1000 - Any thoughts?
Sounds like you've pretty much answered your own question

GranpaB

20,094 posts

67 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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skilly1 said:
We have a 62 plate Nissan Qashqai, worth about £3500.

It was hit in the rear by another car whist stationary at lights. The driver of the other car and their insurance company have admitted liability.

Their insurance company wants to write it off and give us £3400, or they will put it as a CAT S and sell it back to us, and give us £2400 on top.

The damage is superficial, bent bumper, which we won't repair. I have had it checked over by a garage for structural damage and there is none. It was only a 15mph hit, and most was taken by the towbar.

We need the car for another 6-8 months as we have a new car coming and I'm thinking of the CAT S route. We then sell it when the new car arrives, hopefully for more than £1000 - Any thoughts?
As you have history with the car and if the damage is 'minimal', i would keep it for now.

carinaman

25,293 posts

203 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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I agree with CarCrazyDad, seems you know the answer.

What's the WBAC price for it now?

V8 Bob

303 posts

156 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Take several photos of the damage to accompany the car sale to show extent of damage. Towbar probably saved damaging the crash bars behind the bumper.

skilly1

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2,910 posts

226 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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carinaman said:
I agree with CarCrazyDad, seems you know the answer.

What's the WBAC price for it now?
WBAC price now without the CAT S registered on it is £2,415

Yes I think I know the answer but just checking I was not crazy!

crofty1984

17,064 posts

235 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Sounds like a good plan, but I'd take lots of pictures of the damage and affected/unaffected areas for when you come to sell it.

carboy2017

743 posts

109 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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I faced a similar situ on my Honda Accord 5 years ago,hit by another car at less than 10mph inside the Tesco car park

Insurance wanted to write it off and pay me £950,I said no then they said they will give me £840 and for me to repair it (just a small ding on the mudguard and scratched bumper),I took the offer and my local repaired that to factory standards as well as took out another ding in the boot which was there when I got the car and polished the whole car for £340!,there were no insurance marking either!

wong

1,449 posts

247 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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I would take the money and the Cat S. If it only owes you ~£1K, then I would keep. The new car may take longer than 6-8 months to arrive. When it does, I'll keep both for a while (if possible).

e21Keith

198 posts

61 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Let them Cat S it and take the money.

BUT
Reject their offer, citing that the car is in great condition, full service history and you think it's worth a lot more than they are offering. They wont want to inspect the car and they will offer you more money.

NFT

1,324 posts

53 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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skilly1 said:
We have a 62 plate Nissan Qashqai, worth about £3500.

It was hit in the rear by another car whist stationary at lights. The driver of the other car and their insurance company have admitted liability.

Their insurance company wants to write it off and give us £3400, or they will put it as a CAT S and sell it back to us, and give us £2400 on top.

The damage is superficial, bent bumper, which we won't repair. I have had it checked over by a garage for structural damage and there is none. It was only a 15mph hit, and most was taken by the towbar.

We need the car for another 6-8 months as we have a new car coming and I'm thinking of the CAT S route. We then sell it when the new car arrives, hopefully for more than £1000 - Any thoughts?
Not sure atm, Is this a proper bent & dented bumper?, or as it was except for a minimal little imperfection at and odd angle?

NFT

1,324 posts

53 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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e21Keith said:
Let them Cat S it and take the money.

BUT
Reject their offer, citing that the car is in great condition, full service history and you think it's worth a lot more than they are offering. They wont want to inspect the car and they will offer you more money.
I warn against this unless it is actual damage not a bump and minimal deformation, seen it tried before, was two women one on phone and one lost, clearly they missed three opportunities to go on a roundabout then stupidly shunted forward and stopped causing the car behind to look right and make good progress clean into the back of them to no damage except to his car number plate..

This angered him so much that he got my friends details as a witness through insurer as was behind him, Peed him off they would even bother since no damage that reported for dangerous driving, failing to make progress, causing obstruction and he instructed insurer to treat them as criminals for not making progress and they have tried something similar to his insistence they be dealt with as deliberately committing a false stop to cause an accident/driving without due care & attention and going further in the background unbeknown to them.



Edited by NFT on Saturday 25th June 12:58

wong

1,449 posts

247 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Also some insurance charge more for Cat S.

Phil Dicky

7,194 posts

294 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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NFT said:
e21Keith said:
Let them Cat S it and take the money.

BUT
Reject their offer, citing that the car is in great condition, full service history and you think it's worth a lot more than they are offering. They wont want to inspect the car and they will offer you more money.
I warn against this unless it is actual damage not a bump and minimal deformation, seen it tried before, was two women one on phone and one lost, clearly they missed three opportunities to go on a roundabout then stupidly shunted forward and stopped causing the car behind to look right and make good progress clean into the back of them to no damage except to his car number plate..

This angered him so much that he got my friends details as a witness through insurer as was behind him, Peed him off they would even bother since no damage that reported for dangerous driving, failing to make progress, causing obstruction and he instructed insurer to treat them as criminals for not making progress and they have tried something similar to his insistence they be dealt with as deliberately committing a false stop to cause and accident/driving without due care & attention and going further in the background unbeknown to them.

Edited by NFT on Saturday 25th June 12:49
Why on earth would an insurance company pursue any motoring offences? He wanted them dealt with as criminals ?

NFT

1,324 posts

53 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Obviously they wouldn't but police may, He thinks that had they paid attention it would not have occurred and thinks to be distracted,, not go three times while on phone and then move forward and stop for no reason when was totally clear for them to go and they moved 2 meters (driving right out of his sight to left as if waited for him to look then stopped dead with no real reason) that it is a scam or there taking the Pee wanting to up the cost of the claim he wouldn't have even bothered with.

No idea on OPs circumstances tho, just warning they may wish to check it.

P.S was Bradford too so also suspected they had no insurance to start with & was then expecting large whiplash claims.



Edited by NFT on Saturday 25th June 13:29

irc

9,886 posts

167 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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NFT said:
I warn against this unless it is actual damage not a bump and minimal deformation, seen it tried before, was two women one on phone and one lost, clearly they missed three opportunities to go on a roundabout then stupidly shunted forward and stopped causing the car behind to look right and make good progress clean into the back of them to no damage except to his car number plate..

This angered him so much that he got my friends details as a witness through insurer as was behind him, Peed him off they would even bother since no damage that reported for dangerous driving, failing to make progress, causing obstruction and he instructed insurer to treat them as criminals for not making progress and they have tried something similar to his insistence they be dealt with as deliberately committing a false stop to cause an accident/driving without due care & attention and going further in the background unbeknown to them.



Edited by NFT on Saturday 25th June 12:58
So what you are saying someone drove into the back of a car in front of them but it wasn't their fault? Despite the fact the other driver's behaviour in the few seconds before the crash indicates they were either a nervous driver, not paying attention, or a scammer. All good reasons for being extra careful.

wong

1,449 posts

247 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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irc said:
NFT said:
I warn against this unless it is actual damage not a bump and minimal deformation, seen it tried before, was two women one on phone and one lost, clearly they missed three opportunities to go on a roundabout then stupidly shunted forward and stopped causing the car behind to look right and make good progress clean into the back of them to no damage except to his car number plate..

This angered him so much that he got my friends details as a witness through insurer as was behind him, Peed him off they would even bother since no damage that reported for dangerous driving, failing to make progress, causing obstruction and he instructed insurer to treat them as criminals for not making progress and they have tried something similar to his insistence they be dealt with as deliberately committing a false stop to cause an accident/driving without due care & attention and going further in the background unbeknown to them.



Edited by NFT on Saturday 25th June 12:58
So what you are saying someone drove into the back of a car in front of them but it wasn't their fault? Despite the fact the other driver's behaviour in the few seconds before the crash indicates they were either a nervous driver, not paying attention, or a scammer. All good reasons for being extra careful.
In almost all cases, if a car drives into the back of another, it is the car at the back's fault (unless the car in front was proven to be reversing?).
Even brake testing, the rear car was following too closely.

mdw

422 posts

305 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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e21Keith said:
Let them Cat S it and take the money.

BUT
Reject their offer, citing that the car is in great condition, full service history and you think it's worth a lot more than they are offering. They wont want to inspect the car and they will offer you more money.
This. My son was offered his Fabia for £1600 with cat s, He had another car anyway so didnt need it, it made £600 at Copart. As always dont accept the first offers.

NFT

1,324 posts

53 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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wong said:
irc said:
NFT said:
I warn against this unless it is actual damage not a bump and minimal deformation, seen it tried before, was two women one on phone and one lost, clearly they missed three opportunities to go on a roundabout then stupidly shunted forward and stopped causing the car behind to look right and make good progress clean into the back of them to no damage except to his car number plate..

This angered him so much that he got my friends details as a witness through insurer as was behind him, Peed him off they would even bother since no damage that reported for dangerous driving, failing to make progress, causing obstruction and he instructed insurer to treat them as criminals for not making progress and they have tried something similar to his insistence they be dealt with as deliberately committing a false stop to cause an accident/driving without due care & attention and going further in the background unbeknown to them.
So what you are saying someone drove into the back of a car in front of them but it wasn't their fault? Despite the fact the other driver's behaviour in the few seconds before the crash indicates they were either a nervous driver, not paying attention, or a scammer. All good reasons for being extra careful.
In almost all cases, if a car drives into the back of another, it is the car at the back's fault (unless the car in front was proven to be reversing?).
Even brake testing, the rear car was following too closely.
Yep, Don't want to discourage the op but don't know details as I was not there, just wouldn't want anyone claiming its worth more as fully serviced as suggested, if it was not, doing that simply because they expecting insurer wouldn't want to check could if complained, result in insurer looking to prove otherwise to avoid paying out etc..

I believe by default it is following cars fault unless can be proved, hence my friend got contacted as allegations of multiple traffic offenses to cause it, forgot to say friend had dash cam so it looks like they either stopped for no reason or asking directions on phone that was in use and stopped to hear correct junction, or calculated to do it after going out the guys line of sight (covering traffic from right and straight ahead of him but leaving blind spot front left) common by scammers, as you've see them go, a lot look right, can see in front of your car but blind to front left of the car, see a spot and as you look ahead you see they have magically returned, appearing in-front of you then bang, shock, sorry, here's my insurer. Only to later think about what has occurred and know something abnormal occurred then tell insurer. Causing them to focus on anything to avoid paying out where they can.




Edited by NFT on Saturday 25th June 19:04

Draxindustries1

1,657 posts

54 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Take the money , buy a second hand bumper and any associated little parts, fit and repaint.
Sell it for far more money than a damaged car even if it is cat s.