Wife’s car got cloned! How do people get away with this?
Wife’s car got cloned! How do people get away with this?
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Speedy_123

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5 posts

53 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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The other car was caught speeding and we got the ticket. She’s going to get a new plate so that will be an end to it. But I was wondering, if the speeding hadn’t brought the clone to light, surely the perp could have got away with this indefinitely? Is ANPR any help?
And I wonder how long they were driving around with her plate on.

David-p5d5m

54 posts

66 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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What do you mean "how on people get away with this?"?

Speedy_123

Original Poster:

5 posts

53 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Haha sorry predictive text, can’t seem to edit it.

steveo3002

11,238 posts

205 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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could get away it for years unless theyre stopped by police , must be rife

thebraketester

15,835 posts

169 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Speedy_123 said:
The other car was caught speeding and we got the ticket. She’s going to get a new plate so that will be an end to it. But I was wondering, if the speeding hadn’t brought the clone to light, surely the perp could have got away with this indefinitely? Is ANPR any help?
And I wonder how long they were driving around with her plate on.
A new plate isnt guaranteed to fix the issue.

Speedy_123

Original Poster:

5 posts

53 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Yeah I was thinking that too. Seems very unlikely they would be stopped providing everything was legit on the surface.

so called

9,160 posts

240 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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David-p5d5m said:
What do you mean "how on people get away with this?"?
How do people..........

Speedy_123

Original Poster:

5 posts

53 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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You don’t think a new plate will solve it, why? It’s worrying.

Speedy_123

Original Poster:

5 posts

53 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Yes that’s what I meant :/

wong

1,449 posts

247 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Do you mean a new registration number?

mat205125

17,790 posts

244 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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steveo3002 said:
could get away it for years unless theyre stopped by police , must be rife
Exactly.

Buy a pair of "show plates", or cough up for legitimate running costs for a car

Saves on fuel too, if the person were really cheeky


J4CKO

47,028 posts

231 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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A freind of mine with an M135i got his cloned and it was used as a sort of pool car by a group of drug dealers in London who parked with impunity, got numerous speeding tickets and generally caused havoc.

He had loads of issues until he got it sorted and proved he hadnt been in Tottenham, ever. He nought a cheap private plate in the end.

The Hofff

255 posts

202 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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I believe the OP is referring to purchasing a private reg plate.

Once registered to his wife's car the current standard reg number will be flagged up as 'not on the database', resulting in the plod being likely to pull it over and check the drivers details.

Also, changing to a private plate will stop his wife's car being identified as the guilty party automated penalties for any bus lane/speeding offences etc
At minimum it provides evidence that her car is not that in the offence.

joropug

3,075 posts

220 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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It happens a lot and I think auto trader/other sites is prime for criminals to find a matching car/plate to clone.

Mine got done when I was selling, luckily the worst that happened was a dart charge fine which I successfully appealed with the police reference.

Make sure you do get a police reference, might just be the start. New plate definitely a good idea.

Howard-

4,964 posts

233 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Earlier this year I found out that my plate had been cloned after I got a parking fine letter with the offence being near Greenwich. I have never been to Greenwich via car and certainly not in mine! They had obviously found a photo of my car online (lesson learnt!) as the car photographed was one that looks identical to mine.

I notified the police and they gave me a crime reference number, and I then gave this and the relevant info to the parking company and the fine was waived. I was expecting to receive a barrage of congestion charge / parking / speeding fines over the coming days/weeks, and to get pulled over when out and about, but nope, absolutely nothing more happened.

The advice from the police will be to just get on with your life and provide any necessary info if you do get pulled over. I wouldn't waste money on a new plate unless the issue massively escalates.

blazer4

3 posts

53 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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maybe ANPR would pick it up if two cars with same plate appear in different areas? Do police actually have the tech to do this, or just catch up with them if/when they commit an offence? im really not sure.

TCX

1,976 posts

86 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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blazer4 said:
maybe ANPR would pick it up if two cars with same plate appear in different areas? Do police actually have the tech to do this, or just catch up with them if/when they commit an offence? im really not sure.
Never mind tech,they don't have time or 'person' power,unless they were doing a traffic stop event,999 wasn't being answered in North London on Saturday night... volume of calls

blazer4

3 posts

53 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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You're more than likely correct. I have seen news articles where drivers have been stopped on false plates and found to be driving with no tax/insurance/mot etc. It got me thinking, why were they stopped? Although maybe the car was a different make/colour etc, they might have done something to arouse suspicion which was not mentioned. Cloning is probably absolutely rife these days.

Olivergt

2,280 posts

112 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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TCX said:
blazer4 said:
maybe ANPR would pick it up if two cars with same plate appear in different areas? Do police actually have the tech to do this, or just catch up with them if/when they commit an offence? im really not sure.
Never mind tech,they don't have time or 'person' power,unless they were doing a traffic stop event,999 wasn't being answered in North London on Saturday night... volume of calls
I'm sure the ANPR system could be updated with the distance between cameras data. Then, given the time stamps at each ANPR event, you can calculate how long it took between the events, if this is too fast, then flag to human to investigate.

This doesn't have to be real time, it could be a nightly event to find any numbers that were registered more than once and then look at the time and distance difference between the events.

It's pretty simple stuff really all the data should be available, it's just a case of turning the data in to information.

blazer4

3 posts

53 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Don't they currently do that then? I'm guessing not.