Used car purchase issue
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Ok this is a mate, and I did advise him to buy privately but he ignored me, ended up buying a 7 year old Mokka 1.4 turbo for 7.3k from a big retail chain.
Now it looks ok but when he came to see me for quick spin, engine management light came on. Checked coolant was pretty low.
I said take it back which he did, the mechanic told him it had had a new engine. It seemed like it was a sensor.
They never mentioned this to him, about
the engine replacement, I'm pretty sure they should have, what do you think?
Now it looks ok but when he came to see me for quick spin, engine management light came on. Checked coolant was pretty low.
I said take it back which he did, the mechanic told him it had had a new engine. It seemed like it was a sensor.
They never mentioned this to him, about
the engine replacement, I'm pretty sure they should have, what do you think?
Ouroboros said:
It is booked in to get fixed this weekend. The reason I asked in this sub forum, was I thought an engine change had to update the v5 of something. The engine change was done by the selling garage, no mention made.
The new engine number should be recorded on the V5, yes. If it doesn't tally with what is fitted to the car then he will need to fill in the appropriate section on the V5 and post it to the DVLA. They may or may not want to inspect the vehicle (probably not if it's just a straight swap). The supplying garage may be able to supply him with the required evidence of the swap.He did do this type of basic check before paying, didn't he?
https://www.gov.uk/change-vehicle-details-registra...
Cold said:
The new engine number should be recorded on the V5, yes. If it doesn't tally with what is fitted to the car then he will need to fill in the appropriate section on the V5 and post it to the DVLA. They may or may not want to inspect the vehicle (probably not if it's just a straight swap). The supplying garage may be able to supply him with the required evidence of the swap.
He did do this type of basic check before paying, didn't he?
https://www.gov.uk/change-vehicle-details-registra...
i said ti check v5 but will advise him of that info, It is a massive car chain.He did do this type of basic check before paying, didn't he?
https://www.gov.uk/change-vehicle-details-registra...
I'd be wanting more information for sure
why did it need a replacement engine?
was the replacement engine new/recondition/used?
how many miles on the used engine?
has the v5 been updated with the new engine?
does the warranty provided have any exemptions if the engine has already been swapped?
answers could be good or bad depending how they come out but if the dealership knew the engine had been swapped this really should have been declared to the buyer.
Edit:
Gearbox original?
Clutch changed?
Timing belt changed?
why did it need a replacement engine?
was the replacement engine new/recondition/used?
how many miles on the used engine?
has the v5 been updated with the new engine?
does the warranty provided have any exemptions if the engine has already been swapped?
answers could be good or bad depending how they come out but if the dealership knew the engine had been swapped this really should have been declared to the buyer.
Edit:
Gearbox original?
Clutch changed?
Timing belt changed?
Edited by andburg on Thursday 30th June 09:31
ellingtj said:
Maybe worth a vcheck https://www.vcheck.uk/
Probably a bit late. I think my mate is happy with car.Biker 1 said:
£7k? WTF???
Did he test drive it?
Think so, I went with him to another site, the cars were crap, proper dross, lacquer gone, signs of accident damage, no service history and the salesman acted like Car Craft used to, it just seemed about a monthly figure.Did he test drive it?
Crazy world where 20k cars 7 years ago are still selling for 37% of RRP.
It does look a bit shady for the garage to not inform your friend of the engine change.
It now creates many other questions about the whole purchase.
The garage is responsible for either notifying DVLA of the engine change as they need to provide some official proof of the engine purchase/change or at least give your friend the proof to do it.
The garage may have notified DVLA prior to purchase or at the time of the sale.
If the engine was a new one with no miles there shouldn’t be anything to worry about other than the lack of them being upfront.
If the engine is a used item (most likely) then the issue becomes more of a PITA as the vehicle will have a different mileage to the replacement engine and now the engine has potentially an unknown history even if the service book is available the engine is still unknown to that vehicle in that why was it available for sale? Crashed vehicle, damaged engine hiding other issues?
Your friend needs to either use these factors to reject the vehicle or ask for a decent recompense for this hidden fact.
I would probably reject the vehicle unless the deal was so good to refuse.
Good luck to your friend and I hope they get sorted.
It now creates many other questions about the whole purchase.
The garage is responsible for either notifying DVLA of the engine change as they need to provide some official proof of the engine purchase/change or at least give your friend the proof to do it.
The garage may have notified DVLA prior to purchase or at the time of the sale.
If the engine was a new one with no miles there shouldn’t be anything to worry about other than the lack of them being upfront.
If the engine is a used item (most likely) then the issue becomes more of a PITA as the vehicle will have a different mileage to the replacement engine and now the engine has potentially an unknown history even if the service book is available the engine is still unknown to that vehicle in that why was it available for sale? Crashed vehicle, damaged engine hiding other issues?
Your friend needs to either use these factors to reject the vehicle or ask for a decent recompense for this hidden fact.
I would probably reject the vehicle unless the deal was so good to refuse.
Good luck to your friend and I hope they get sorted.
anonymous said:
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Why?Where do you stop...gearbox, diff, clutch & flywheel, brakes, spark plugs, air filter?
anonymous said:
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If you were told, would you happily pay more for a car with a new(er) engine (or recently replace major components)?Almost every mechanical part on my car has been replaced either through upgrades or maintenance due to age...and I'd consider it worth significantly more than a similar one that hadn't had all these replacements by this age.
Ouroboros said:
Ok this is a mate, and I did advise him to buy privately but he ignored me, ended up buying a 7 year old Mokka 1.4 turbo for 7.3k from a big retail chain.
Now it looks ok but when he came to see me for quick spin, engine management light came on. Checked coolant was pretty low.
I said take it back which he did, the mechanic told him it had had a new engine. It seemed like it was a sensor.
They never mentioned this to him, about
the engine replacement, I'm pretty sure they should have, what do you think?
In theory he could reject. A dealer is not allowed to with hold information that could have affected your friends decision to buy the car.Now it looks ok but when he came to see me for quick spin, engine management light came on. Checked coolant was pretty low.
I said take it back which he did, the mechanic told him it had had a new engine. It seemed like it was a sensor.
They never mentioned this to him, about
the engine replacement, I'm pretty sure they should have, what do you think?
And the dealer has admitted to him that they knew.
However, actually getting your money back could be time consuming if the dealer doesn't play ball.
He'd have to stop using the car whilst action is underway to get his refund, and with court delays it could take months, maybe many months.
If he's otherwise happy with the car then I'd complain to the dealer and push them for some extra warranty due to the fact they should have been upfront about it.
Let us know how he get's on.
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