Jetson flying 'bike'
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I presume you chaps have seen this mad device
https://www.jetsonaero.com/
part of me thinks this is brilliant, but a bigger part is is thinking people are going to die .....
https://www.jetsonaero.com/
part of me thinks this is brilliant, but a bigger part is is thinking people are going to die .....
Max_Torque said:
The issue is entirely around legislation and air safety.
What "licence" do you need to commute in one of these?
People i see driving everyday can't even parallel park or reverse, so no way are they going to be flying something anytime soon.......
TBDWhat "licence" do you need to commute in one of these?
People i see driving everyday can't even parallel park or reverse, so no way are they going to be flying something anytime soon.......
https://www.caa.co.uk/safety-initiatives-and-resou...
Evanivitch said:
Max_Torque said:
The issue is entirely around legislation and air safety.
What "licence" do you need to commute in one of these?
People i see driving everyday can't even parallel park or reverse, so no way are they going to be flying something anytime soon.......
TBDWhat "licence" do you need to commute in one of these?
People i see driving everyday can't even parallel park or reverse, so no way are they going to be flying something anytime soon.......
https://www.caa.co.uk/safety-initiatives-and-resou...
These sorts of things are becoming very hot in the emergent tech world. Not for right now... But for when battery tech is improved to the point they're entirely practical.
Regards rules & regs.. already some places in the world are allowing automated drone delivery of goods, it shouldn't make a difference if the thing being delivered in the future is 'you' although that might well mean it's a call up book type of transport that will fly itself.
The actual safety aspect of all multi motor drones is insanely good because they can all set down safely even if more than one motor gives up.
This is one for wealthy investors to get excited by today, and probably something we can look to enjoy 'tomorrow'.
Regards rules & regs.. already some places in the world are allowing automated drone delivery of goods, it shouldn't make a difference if the thing being delivered in the future is 'you' although that might well mean it's a call up book type of transport that will fly itself.
The actual safety aspect of all multi motor drones is insanely good because they can all set down safely even if more than one motor gives up.
This is one for wealthy investors to get excited by today, and probably something we can look to enjoy 'tomorrow'.
TheDeuce said:
The actual safety aspect of all multi motor drones is insanely good because they can all set down safely even if more than one motor gives up.'.
Have a look at the number of rotary wing crashes caused by pilot error vs equipment failure. Yes, helicopters do fail and they fail in rather unsafe ways, but the fact is, people flying into objects still rates as a signficant cause of rotary wing crashes....... (precisely because unlike fixed wing aviation you can fly in close proximity to objects on a normal basis)Max_Torque said:
TheDeuce said:
The actual safety aspect of all multi motor drones is insanely good because they can all set down safely even if more than one motor gives up.'.
Have a look at the number of rotary wing crashes caused by pilot error vs equipment failure. Yes, helicopters do fail and they fail in rather unsafe ways, but the fact is, people flying into objects still rates as a signficant cause of rotary wing crashes....... (precisely because unlike fixed wing aviation you can fly in close proximity to objects on a normal basis)As for the point about people flying and making errors, as I said, don't assume that the human on board will be allowed to fly it. Don't even assume there will be any way of flying it from within the machine.
MadMullah said:
JonChalk said:
When I win the Euromillions tonight, this is so high on the "want" list.
Unfortunately thats not going to happen. i'm winning it tonight
........that makes me sad. But if you're sure, I'll do the bigger man-thing and step aside with a stiff upper lip.Max_Torque said:
Realistically i can't see any licencing or training requirements being less than those required currently for a fixed wing PPL, and probably something slightly stricter,heading at least towards a rotary licence due to the amount of time spent in proximity to the ground and highly varied operating environment / proximity to general public etc?
I disagree. PPL is still a hangover from analogue flight (which is still largely true of most light aircraft) and flying with little to no assistance.eVTOL will be highly assisted, if not fully automated with only limited safety demands on the operator. Fly by wire, flight envelope limitations, active collision avoidance etc etc.
Maybe there will be an operator's licence, but it won't be anywhere equivalent of a PPL. It'll be a more equivalent to a basic medical, simple theory test and a couple of hours in a simulator.
Evanivitch said:
Max_Torque said:
Realistically i can't see any licencing or training requirements being less than those required currently for a fixed wing PPL, and probably something slightly stricter,heading at least towards a rotary licence due to the amount of time spent in proximity to the ground and highly varied operating environment / proximity to general public etc?
I disagree. PPL is still a hangover from analogue flight (which is still largely true of most light aircraft) and flying with little to no assistance.eVTOL will be highly assisted, if not fully automated with only limited safety demands on the operator. Fly by wire, flight envelope limitations, active collision avoidance etc etc.
Maybe there will be an operator's licence, but it won't be anywhere equivalent of a PPL. It'll be a more equivalent to a basic medical, simple theory test and a couple of hours in a simulator.
JonChalk said:
Sort of agree, really. Whatever you think of Musk's snake oil salesmanship around the non-existent FSD, ultimately non-human management of vehicles is the "best" way to maximise road usage, increase safety and increase efficiency. Doing the same in 3- dimensions is not that big a stretch, once 2D has been cracked.
100%. They say it's dangerous to tailgate on the motorways... But it wouldn't be if the cars were all hive controlled.Humans manage to screw up every motorway in the land each day.
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