Fuel price protests 4/7/22 (M4/M5/M48)

[chemistry]

Fuel price protests planned on Monday in the Bristol/Newport area. Major disruption to M4, M5, M48, M32 etc. expected:

https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2022-07-01/tr...

[Charlie1986]

There has been so many of these planned but have not materialised yet.

[Randy Winkman]

I'm not sure that the nature of the protest quite fits with the aim of the protest. The issue at hand is the high cost of fuel, which ultimately discourages vehicle use. Is it therefore a good idea to hold up traffic, increase fuel use and (possibly) suggest that the world might be a better place if we depended on vehicles less and walked or cycled more?

[JulianHJ]

Protest planned for A23/M23/M25 as well apparently.

[Bathroom_Security]

JulianHJ said:

Protest planned for A23/M23/M25 as well apparently.

Ace

Let's ruin people's day over prices set by something external to the UK

[MentalSarcasm]

Possibly on the A12 around Colchester as well - https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/20245775.will-...

Although given that it's just something circulating on Facebook it's possible no one will actually show up.

[ZedLeg]

Just sounds like folk trying to import embarrassing astroturf campaigning from the US. Hopefully no one will fall for it.

[Tankrizzo]

Whilst I agree that legit protests about fuel costs are valid, this is only going to piss people off. I await one of the convoy leaders getting hauled out of their car by a burly scaffolder.

[MG CHRIS]

There was one planned last week on the heads of valley road in Wales 8 cars turned up. If more than 100 cars turn up I be very surprised.

[Miserablegit]

Why don’t we stage a counter-protest and stop these useless bds from leaving their homes. Glue ourselves to their front doors. The stupidity in this country never ceases to shock me.

[230TE]

MentalSarcasm said:

Possibly on the A12 around Colchester as well - https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/20245775.will-...

Although given that it's just something circulating on Facebook it's possible no one will actually show up.

I hope this falls flat even though I'm not planning to drive on any motorways tomorrow. I have always been against blockading motorways by XR and their offshoots on the grounds that there is a difference between lawful protest and coercive protest ("Give us what we want or we'll bring the country to a standstill") which is straight blackmail whether it is XR or a bunch of truckers doing it. No government is going to give in to blackmail, so this kind of protest is just causing a lot of hassle for people just trying to get to work etc, for no useful purpose.

If these protests do actually materialise it will be interesting to see how the police handle them. Will they offer the protesters a nice cup of tea, and stop the traffic to help facilitate their protest?

[crankedup5]

Bathroom_Security said:

JulianHJ said:

Protest planned for A23/M23/M25 as well apparently.

Ace

Let's ruin people's day over prices set by something external to the UK

That’s ignoring the fact almost 50% of the cost to forecourt customer is tax.

[GroundEffect]

crankedup5 said:

Bathroom_Security said:

JulianHJ said:

Protest planned for A23/M23/M25 as well apparently.

Ace

Let's ruin people's day over prices set by something external to the UK

That’s ignoring the fact almost 50% of the cost to forecourt customer is tax.

The duty is a flat rate and has actually gone down. VAT is a markup based on cost. So what has changed to cause that.

[KingNothing]

The brainlets from the local "car cruise" club organised one up here the other week, going slow 100 miles down the A1 to Wetherby services and back, irony being it cost them petrol to do that, then to fill their cars back up again when they got home, and all it did was inconvenience people in exactly the same social level and situation as them.

[Miserablegit]

This from the BBC:

“ The action will mainly target three-lane motorways and will see convoys of vehicles driving slowly in two lanes - leaving the "fast" outside lane free.”

Great- looks as though travel will be easier now the Mercedes lane is clear.

[Stussy]

This thread found on sky news shows the level of brains involved.
Posted himself using his phone while driving, hardly any of the cars turned up, they have no idea where they were going and managed to miss the turn off for the M32 into Bristol !

https://twitter.com/ConorGogarty/status/1543842955...

[oyster]

crankedup5 said:

Bathroom_Security said:

JulianHJ said:

Protest planned for A23/M23/M25 as well apparently.

Ace

Let's ruin people's day over prices set by something external to the UK

That’s ignoring the fact almost 50% of the cost to forecourt customer is tax.

1 year ago, July 2021, petrol was around 135p per litre.
The tax at that time was approx 81p per litre.

The tax per litre of fuel is now approx 84p.

And given individual consumption on average is probably down by a few percent, people are probably paying the same tax on fuel than they previously were.

[sugerbear]

oyster said:

crankedup5 said:

Bathroom_Security said:

JulianHJ said:

Protest planned for A23/M23/M25 as well apparently.

Ace

Let's ruin people's day over prices set by something external to the UK

That’s ignoring the fact almost 50% of the cost to forecourt customer is tax.

1 year ago, July 2021, petrol was around 135p per litre.
The tax at that time was approx 81p per litre.

The tax per litre of fuel is now approx 84p.

And given individual consumption on average is probably down by a few percent, people are probably paying the same tax on fuel than they previously were.

Wrong.

VAT has risen from about 23p to 33p own fuel. So even with the reduction in fuel duty everyone is paying more tax at £2 than when it was £1.35 (ish).

So the chancellor certainly has room to reduce rates. But he does nothing because he is clueless/lightweight.

[MG CHRIS]

Severn bridge on M4 is blocked by these idiots well done cause massive issues for people travel and achieving fat some of nothing in the process.

[Stussy]

MG CHRIS said:

Severn bridge on M4 is blocked by these idiots well done cause massive issues for people travel and achieving fat some of nothing in the process.

That’s the clown I linked above!