Dutch farmers kicking off

[BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo]

Netherlands need to drop their carbon dioxide and nitrogen emissions so the government is targeting farmers. Farmers are not happy



https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/outsiders/dutch...

[frisbee]

"Spraying manure on government buildings."

I think our lot would probably enjoy that!

[FourWheelDrift]

Oh dear, more governments making eco-promises without regards for other consequences.

Yes, you can have your lower emissions, but you won't get any food.

[Electro1980]

frisbee said:

"Spraying manure on government buildings."

I think our lot would probably enjoy that!

The current government spread enough bullst around that no one would notice.

[pquinn]

FourWheelDrift said:

Oh dear, more governments making eco-promises without regards for other consequences.

Yes, you can have your lower emissions, but you won't get any food.

They'll end up as a colder wetter Sri Lanka.

[RizzoTheRat]

It's been going on for a while, there was a great video from the first protests a few years ago with a bunch of kids all driving their toy tractors around

The gist is the government want to cut down on livestock farming to reduce pollution, but they're after something like 70% reductions in some areas. The Dutch are something like the 5th biggest exporter of food in the world, so it'll hit the national economy more than it will hit local food supplies.

[rodericb]

Is this a move to enable the Dutch government to "offshore" farming "pollution creation" to some developing country to please the UN and WEF? Is there a target "pollution" per kg of food product they're aiming for or is it simply some sort of cross-Europe race to the bottom for gross nitrogen and carbon emissions?


Ooh, and now agent provocateurs have been caught on video!

Edited by rodericb on Thursday 7th July 13:42

[BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo]

Protests now spread to Germany, Poland, and Italy.

In the Netherlands the police shot at a young farmer who was aiding in a blockade

https://www.foxnews.com/world/dutch-police-shoot-t...

[BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo]

rodericb said:

Is this a move to enable the Dutch government to "offshore" farming "pollution creation" to some developing country to please the UN and WEF? Is there a target "pollution" per kg of food product they're aiming for or is it simply some sort of cross-Europe race to the bottom for gross nitrogen and carbon emissions?


Ooh, and now agent provocateurs have been caught on video!

Edited by rodericb on Thursday 7th July 13:42

Pretty much. They have to close farms to meet emissions targets, but can buy the food they haven’t produced from other countries. The mind boggles

[Murph7355]

BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo said:

rodericb said:

Is this a move to enable the Dutch government to "offshore" farming "pollution creation" to some developing country to please the UN and WEF? Is there a target "pollution" per kg of food product they're aiming for or is it simply some sort of cross-Europe race to the bottom for gross nitrogen and carbon emissions?


Ooh, and now agent provocateurs have been caught on video!

Edited by rodericb on Thursday 7th July 13:42

Pretty much. They have to close farms to meet emissions targets, but can buy the food they haven’t produced from other countries. The mind boggles

Offsetting.

A genius idea if one believes the planet will actually die in short order, and the biggest sign that all this st is virtue signalling.

[andy_s]

Tractors must be the most underrated yet pivotal weapon in asymmetric warfare:

https://twitter.com/Resist_05/status/1544869192293...

[WelshChris]

BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo said:

Pretty much. They have to close farms to meet emissions targets, but can buy the food they haven’t produced from other countries. The mind boggles

There are parallels with the coal situation. Close all the coal mines in the UK / prevent new ones from opening, but yeah it's fine to import coal from Colombia!

These policies are utter madness IMHO

[gazza285]

WelshChris said:

There are parallels with the coal situation. Close all the coal mines in the UK / prevent new ones from opening, but yeah it's fine to import coal from Colombia!

These policies are utter madness IMHO

Our coal was too expensive to mine, so we buy the cheaper stuff from abroad. When they run out, the U.K. will still have our stocks to fall back on…

Assuming the green lobby let us dig it up.

[anonymous-user]

gazza285 said:

WelshChris said:

There are parallels with the coal situation. Close all the coal mines in the UK / prevent new ones from opening, but yeah it's fine to import coal from Colombia!

These policies are utter madness IMHO

Our coal was too expensive to mine, so we buy the cheaper stuff from abroad. When they run out, the U.K. will still have our stocks to fall back on…

Assuming the green lobby let us dig it up.

And who is going to mine it? (our mining industry effectively disappeared decades ago, along with all the workers and expertise)

[J210]

Hasn't Canada also signed up to this target.

So expect their farmers to kick off next.

[Timothy Bucktu]

Newarch said:

And who is going to mine it? (our mining industry effectively disappeared decades ago, along with all the workers and expertise)

Come on...you know how it works. We'll outsource to a foreign mining company, obvz.

[FourWheelDrift]

It's all automated mining machines with a couple of people with IT diplomas to monitor them these days.

[DeltonaS]

WelshChris said:

BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo said:

Pretty much. They have to close farms to meet emissions targets, but can buy the food they haven’t produced from other countries. The mind boggles

There are parallels with the coal situation. Close all the coal mines in the UK / prevent new ones from opening, but yeah it's fine to import coal from Colombia!

These policies are utter madness IMHO

it has to do with Nitrogen oxides (NOx) and ammonia (NH3) in combination with the proximity of nature reserves. Nitrogen is largely deposited in the immediate vicinity. To protect the biodiversity and water quality each EU country has designated natural areas for which limit nitrogen values have been determined (based on science and measurements). Farmers who are close to nature reserves therefore have a problem.

The problem in the Netherlands is the large number of farmers who are close to these scattered nature reserves. Belgium has the same problem. In addition, farmers feel frustrated because they have already invested a lot in recent decades to reduce nitrogen emissions. More than other European countries. The advantage that Germany and France for instance have is that farmers and nature reserves are more spread out.

[Timothy Bucktu]

There does seem to be a drive to hurt the very hands that feed us. There's obviously an agenda afoot....but what?

[otolith]

Intensive agriculture is environmentally damaging. No st, Sherlock.
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