RE: Jaguar S-Type 3.0 V6 | Shed of the Week
RE: Jaguar S-Type 3.0 V6 | Shed of the Week
Friday 8th July 2022

Jaguar S-Type 3.0 V6 | Shed of the Week

Still not convinced by Jaguar's downsized saloon? Shed reckons he's cracked the code...


What ever did we do before we had the internet? It’s hard to imagine or even remember what life was like in those days, when the vast majority of us relied on bent newspapers or carefully curated telly for our ‘information’, the only exceptions to the generally sheeplike acceptance of supposed truths being exhibited by those few boffins and swots who used to read books and such like. 

Point being, before the internet it was jolly difficult to mount a convincing campaign against a manufacturer who had committed misdeeds because a) it was really hard to find others who had suffered like you, and b) social media didn’t exist as a ready-made platform from which to launch your attack. 

Pre-internet, all that anyone with a grievance could do was catch their death of cold marching up and down outside their local dealership with a sandwich board, or, if they were massively rich, pay lawyers to do the marching. Neither approach gave any guarantee of success. What a difference between then and now, when powerful action is free of charge and any half-decent social media campaign will pretty much run itself once you’ve kickstarted it into life. What a time to be alive. 

The other massive bonus of the internet is all the lovely free information it supplies. Admittedly that info is not always correct, so you do have to be a bit careful, but a few seconds cross-checking will usually confirm or deny any statement you read. Even Shed goes in for this modern online research stuff on account of how if’s made him a fair few quid over the years. How? By telling him about easy fixes to expensive sounding problems. 

Take this week’s shed, a Jaguar S-Type 3.0 in what appears to be absolutely mint condish. 92,000 miles, buttery clean leather, buttery clean MOT apart from the odd rusty brake hose ferrule, spic and span bodywork and wheels etc - but it has an expensive sounding problem. The ad tells us that there’s a warning on the dash – DSC SYSTEM FAULT – and even provides a picture in case we don’t believe it.  

Before the internet we’d all be racing not to touch this Jag with each others’ bargepoles because DSC SYSTEM FAULT sounds like it will kill your bank account in the time it takes to douse your Arthur Daley cigar in the ashtray that cars like this used to provide. In Jaguar-speak, DSC as we all know stands for Dynamic Stabilty Control. As Jaguar itself puts it, ‘the DSC system helps to maintain the vehicle's stability in critical driving situations, e.g. during unstable driving behaviour such as understeer and oversteer. If required, the DSC system manipulates the engine's power output and applies the brakes at individual wheels.’

It sounds horrifically complex and financially ruinous, but after a few keystrokes on his minging old Amstrad Shed found what could well be the solution: a five-minute recalibration of the ABS system at your friendly local Jaguar dealer, at a cost of £20 or less if the technician likes the cut of your jib. If that is indeed the fix - which, of course, it might not be - what are you left with? A very handsome and comfortable old-school Jaguar with a 235hp naturally aspirated six-cylinder engine and a rating of four or five stars by 117 out of 135 actual owners on a well known used car reference site. 

In addition it gives Shed yet another excuse to publicise this classic YouTube clip of one-time F1 racer Antonio Pizzonia at Donington mixing up the cornering ability of a V8 S-Type with that of his F1 car, rolling it at Redgate while former-Autocar scribbler Steve Sutcliffe hung calmly upside down from his seatbelts in the passenger seat inquiring after the health of the hapless pilot. Another benefit of the internet you see. You’d never have seen Sutters establishing his credentials as the coolest dude west of the Pecos on the telly, in the Daily Wail or down at your local Odeon. 

So, let us celebrate the wonder of modern communications technology while at the same time hoping that the seller doesn’t have the time to use it. We wouldn’t want him reading this old nonsense and then cranking the price up. 


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aston addict

Original Poster:

475 posts

189 months

Friday 8th July 2022
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Looks to have had a very short driver.

yme402

670 posts

133 months

Friday 8th July 2022
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To be fair, the cosmetic stuff does look lovely, but that is always the temptation of old Jags. I would still class this as potentially ruinous, and were I ever to go down the S-Type route it would have to be the phase 2 model, as these earlier ones are amazingly similar to the Lincoln Continental of the same era, especially around the rear quarters and parts of the interior. No thanks.

Jim the Sunderer

3,261 posts

213 months

Friday 8th July 2022
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That rear number plate situation is embarrassing.

Unless I'm being blind then it would be me embarrassed- looks like they've stuck a normal plate atop an older, specially shaped one.

wemorgan

3,583 posts

209 months

Friday 8th July 2022
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MoT Checker shows this car has been uncared for over the last 10yrs.

parabolica

7,020 posts

215 months

Friday 8th July 2022
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Jim the Sunderer said:
That rear number plate situation is embarrassing.

Unless I'm being blind then it would be me embarrassed- looks like they've stuck a normal plate atop an older, specially shaped one.
The OEM rear plates fill the entire void; whatever is under that rear plate is smaller than what is on top of it; but yeah it looks naff.

That's a proper grandad spec S-type; as mentioned above I'd be after a phase 2 car with a bit nicer spec but for the money I guess it's a decent option.

Evercross

6,883 posts

95 months

Friday 8th July 2022
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DSC system fault could also be caused by one or more of the wheel speed sensors having given up the ghost, which is not untypical at this mileage. Still a relative cheap DIY fix though.

Gad-Westy

16,636 posts

244 months

Friday 8th July 2022
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aston addict said:
Looks to have had a very short driver.
Maybe I’m due a whoosh parrot but I assume it’s just been hoovered. Or last owner was ET.

Very on the fence about these cars. On the one hand, quite a lot of car for the money and I’m sure very pleasant to cover long distances in. I think pastiche styling was questionable when new and hasn’t been helped by the passage of time. And the centre dash area is criminal! But it’s £1350 and a lovely colour so…

HasToBeV8

163 posts

119 months

Friday 8th July 2022
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Surely if it was just a quick £20 fix, the dealer would have already done this... If this causes a permanent warning light on then it won't pass the next mot.

Portofino

5,396 posts

222 months

Friday 8th July 2022
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You can smell the pipe tobacco on this one, ripe for a jolly hard Geralding.

Wheel_Turned_Out

2,418 posts

69 months

Friday 8th July 2022
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There's always a chance for these kind of things to become potentially ruinous, but the number of MOT advisories carried over year to year suggests things haven't really been taken care of as needed...so in this case I'd say that potential is more of a guarantee.


cerb4.5lee

45,164 posts

211 months

Friday 8th July 2022
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I've never liked the way these look, but it does look very inviting interior wise, and it does seem like a lot of car for the money I reckon. The engine really appeals to me in this too(I remember when almost all manufacturers offered a petrol V6 in their cars), although it probably isn't the greatest engine to be running when fuel is £2.00 a litre though.

ElsieDriver

33 posts

166 months

Friday 8th July 2022
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Sutters = Boss

cerb4.5lee

45,164 posts

211 months

Friday 8th July 2022
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ElsieDriver said:
Sutters = Boss
yes

DoctorX

8,271 posts

198 months

Friday 8th July 2022
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Worst blanking plate ever for those that couldn't afford the one with the screen. Mind you, you're probably better off with the cubbyhole these days.

Digga

48,541 posts

314 months

Friday 8th July 2022
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Digga snr had the first customer V8 car out of Colliers, Sutton Coldfield. Having previously had 3 XJS's on the bounce, the interior quality was shocking. Utterly hideous. The car barely disguised its quotidian origins from the Lincoln platform the shell derived from. (Look at interior shots on many US cop shows and the A-pillars are a dead giveaway.)

Worse yet, the turn in was wooly and it made for a very boring drive.

The gen 2 cars were a much better effort on all fronts.

Turbobanana

8,528 posts

232 months

Friday 8th July 2022
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The photos make it look like someone has thought "I know, I'll make a clearing in this forest and set up a car valeting bay. If I build it, they will come".

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,783 posts

129 months

Friday 8th July 2022
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We all know that it's a strange time for used cars and used car prices. Although Shed upped the budget to £1500 a little while ago, I wonder if it is time to move it again to £2000 or something. It's getting harder and harder to find interesting Sheds at these prices....

Digga

48,541 posts

314 months

Friday 8th July 2022
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BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
We all know that it's a strange time for used cars and used car prices. Although Shed upped the budget to £1500 a little while ago, I wonder if it is time to move it again to £2000 or something. It's getting harder and harder to find interesting Sheds at these prices....
No. Gen 1 S-type was cheap American bork with a badge on it. They need recycling.

richinlondon

902 posts

153 months

Friday 8th July 2022
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You always wonder with faults like that- if it was cheap to fix it wouldn’t be advertised with the fault

J4CKO

47,024 posts

231 months

Friday 8th July 2022
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I have long held a disdain for the S Type, along with the X Type it sort of encapsulated the worst bits of what old Jags were about, an XJ had that but it also had enough gravitas to carry it off, The X Type just didnt and the S Type didnt have enough.

Didnt help a lot were in truly lame colours, my wifes aunts very posh friend always had an S Type in some Duck Egg blue shade, suppose it was a ladies car so perhaps she chose a more feminine type of colour but it just didn't suit the car, and there were plenty of beige and gold ones, with some overly small wheels. Though the right grandad spec can be quite appealing and I must say the dark green is a lot better than t could have been.

I am sort of warming to them though, its always got the fact its a Jag and its RWD for it, I even quite like the styling now, they went the whole hog on evoking the Mk2 and original S type.

Its funny, sixties jag saloons are now quite expensive but as a kid, in the mid eighties I used to play in a scrapyard at the back of Jag specialist and there were loads of them, they were largely worthless and more appeared fairly regularly. A bit like S types now really, now I am not tipping them for classic status but we will probably think they were very cheap at one point, like this one and they arent all absolutely rotten like the sixties ones were. The image will die off to a point (Brexit Chariot yadda yadda) and I think some will wonder why there is such a cheap, interesting old car nobody wants.

Not looked at the MOT history but on the face of it, looks pretty good, would take a cosmetically good one that needs a few jobs underneath over a battered one with a ruined interior, cant see the DSC thing being a massive problem, there is only so much to that system and its usually a wheel speed sensor, not shortage of secondhand bits and the XF used this platform until 2015 so no shortage of new parts I expect.

Wont be cheap to run, but hey, its £1300, probably less with a cheeky bid, its a good shed this week for me. Would need to change the headlight bulbs, sort the lenses so it doesn't look like its got jaundice.