Scotland car blocked in?
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Slow

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6,973 posts

166 months

Tuesday 12th July 2022
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Quick question for my brothers sake.

Left his car on what looks like a public road (several businesses along it BUT there is a large gate which hasnt been shut in the 17 years I have lived here) over the weekend not blocking anyone just in the row of cars that are parked.

Came back to it monday to find 2 pallets either end of his car 1mm from the bumpers with large concrete blocks (probably 1/2 a ton). The garage in one of the businesses claimed it was there doing and its £100 to remove them.

This is the road he was on, no signs for private car park, private road etc.

https://www.google.com/maps/@57.4831502,-4.2218274...

He paid it as needed the car back but legally are they in the right or should he be making a complaint the police? Said he paid them on a credit card so is just going to try charge back.

Slow

Original Poster:

6,973 posts

166 months

Tuesday 12th July 2022
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anonymous said:
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He didnt block anything, just parked like all the other cars on that road. Turns out they are just customers cars though but he wasnt sure how he was meant to know this isnt just a road as theres no lines/signs and multiple companies sharing it.

sixor8

8,505 posts

297 months

Tuesday 12th July 2022
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Unless the rules are different in Scotland, it seems he may have been 'had' to me. scratchchin

The only sign on the building is for a fragile roof (unless it's changed since Sept 2021). Going back to the main road, there are no signs whatsoever at the turning in about restricted parking, or even that it is an industrial estate! You obviously wouldn't park too close to the Needlefield Depot sliding entrance gate, but otherwise, perhaps they've taken exception to a 'non-local' parking there?.....

Slow

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166 months

Tuesday 12th July 2022
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Private companies cant clamp in Scotland which this feels very similar to except for its not a clamp but concrete blocks.

jm8403

2,515 posts

54 months

Tuesday 12th July 2022
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Slow said:
Quick question for my brothers sake.

Left his car on what looks like a public road (several businesses along it BUT there is a large gate which hasnt been shut in the 17 years I have lived here) over the weekend not blocking anyone just in the row of cars that are parked.

Came back to it monday to find 2 pallets either end of his car 1mm from the bumpers with large concrete blocks (probably 1/2 a ton). The garage in one of the businesses claimed it was there doing and its £100 to remove them.

This is the road he was on, no signs for private car park, private road etc.

https://www.google.com/maps/@57.4831502,-4.2218274...

He paid it as needed the car back but legally are they in the right or should he be making a complaint the police? Said he paid them on a credit card so is just going to try charge back.
If he used pin its classed a secure transaction so may struggle to claim.

poo at Paul's

14,603 posts

204 months

Tuesday 12th July 2022
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Daft not to call the police as it was likely illegal to have something like them pallets on a public road, unlit and without reflectors etc.
I can’t believe anyone would pay that without calling or reporting to plod.

If they were concrete building blocks, why not just remove them from pallet one at a time?

jm8403

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54 months

Tuesday 12th July 2022
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poo at Paul's said:
Daft not to call the police as it was likely illegal to have something like them pallets on a public road, unlit and without reflectors etc.
I can’t believe anyone would pay that without calling or reporting to plod.
It would be daft now, after it has happened and paid it. All he needed was a couple of trolley jacks and pull it out.

IJWS15

2,203 posts

114 months

Tuesday 12th July 2022
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He parked inside an open gate and got what he deserved.

What if the gate had been locked when he returned.

Where does he live, if I am in the area and need free parking I will park on his drive!

Slow

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Tuesday 12th July 2022
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IJWS15 said:
He parked inside an open gate and got what he deserved.

What if the gate had been locked when he returned.

Where does he live, if I am in the area and need free parking I will park on his drive!
The gate that has a bush growing through it and several businesses share the road for? No where does it say any of this is private, just looks like a public road to me.


col711

28 posts

78 months

Tuesday 12th July 2022
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It is an industrial estate where the roads are almost certainly maintained by the local authority. Best to check with the highways department that that is the case. Do you have any photos of your brother's car being prevented from being used? If so, can you prove who blocked him in? I do not know exactly what the offence would be but you could speak to the council and police to see whether they are willing to do something but they are unlikely to get your brother's money back. Citizen's Advice may be able to advise whether it is worth going to small claims.

jm8403

2,515 posts

54 months

Tuesday 12th July 2022
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Shouldn't have been very difficult to move one of those blocks. Any van or 4 x 4 and a rope and you're out.

Slow

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Tuesday 12th July 2022
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jm8403 said:
Shouldn't have been very difficult to move one of those blocks. Any van or 4 x 4 and a rope and you're out.
Hes 21 and there was 3 big older guys stood there demanding payment.

jm8403

2,515 posts

54 months

Tuesday 12th July 2022
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Slow said:
Hes 21 and there was 3 big older guys stood there demanding payment.
Go back at night or should have called the police then. Lesson learned. Chalk down to a 100 quid mistake.

vaud

59,341 posts

184 months

Tuesday 12th July 2022
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Slow said:
Hes 21 and there was 3 big older guys stood there demanding payment.
Demanding money with menaces?

Tony1963

5,808 posts

191 months

Tuesday 12th July 2022
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I'm afraid the gated entrance would've put me off even thinking about parking there. The various government/local authorities tend to not do that to public roads unless there's a very good reason.

Slow

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6,973 posts

166 months

Tuesday 12th July 2022
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This exact location on the street is dated from 4 years prior the other photo. Obviously they cut the railings down to get parking on that road as the only other 2 building using that road are the railways, would make me think the road doesnt even belong to this business even if it was a private road?

https://www.google.com/maps/@57.4827476,-4.2219282...

PHZero

1,411 posts

122 months

Tuesday 12th July 2022
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Slow said:
The gate that has a bush growing through it and several businesses share the road for? No where does it say any of this is private, just looks like a public road to me.

Wow. That's a stty thing to do. I would have thought that a polite note would do the job, especially if he wasn't parking there frequently.

Hopefully the chargeback route works. If he's ever in the area again, he should make sure that he doesn't accidentally drop a load of wood screws.

Voldemort

7,547 posts

307 months

Tuesday 12th July 2022
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I sure hope they are paying the VAT and that he got a receipt showing the same. Otherwise, https://www.gov.uk/report-tax-fraud

Watchthis

605 posts

91 months

Tuesday 12th July 2022
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You and your brother should pop back round to see them with a couple of your pals. Alternatively parking in front of their entrance door could also work. If they are pulling stunts like that they deserve a bit of aggro. Add some expanding foam round their doors and glue in the lock too just because

M4cruiser

5,144 posts

179 months

Tuesday 12th July 2022
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Doesn't look like a public road to me.
But if it's private, then why was the google car filming in there!?