Company car BIK or Lease car and take Allowance
Company car BIK or Lease car and take Allowance
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passat98

Original Poster:

4 posts

141 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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I am looking into a replacement car next year, I currently have a 2018 BMW 330e through a company car option that took my tax code down to 748L.

Do you think it would be better to lease a car / PCP a car and take my company car allowance £500 and then the payment on business miles ? (I currently do between 30,000 - 40,000 per year) and go back to the standard 1270 tax free amount ?

I am on £47,000 basic and doing research into the best option to maximise take home over the next 3 years. With the company car option option I am more boxed into hybrid / electric, but for a car allowance I think diesel is still the most economical option.

Any thoughts ? what are you doing ?

Dave.

7,893 posts

282 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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fk putting 40k miles on your own car!

Let the company pay for that and the maintenance that goes with it.

clockworks

7,624 posts

174 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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I had company cars for 20 years, doing a similar annual mileage. The only way I could make it work financially to run my own car was when there was no age limit. I'd buy an old Ford Granada or Vauxhall Carlton with a long MOT, and sell it on before it needed any work.

As soon as my employer put a 6 year age limit on, it always worked out cheaper to take the company car.

Might be a bit different now, with BIK rates being higher?

Bluemondy

400 posts

110 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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I had this issue. Company car list was a bit poor. Could take the cash & lease option.

Ultimately though my car's get a rough time due to the geographical area I work in. A Mondeo bouncing down farmers tracks weekly takes its toll and I don't want the potential liability.

Same as racking up 40k a year I'd imagine!

Somebody

1,756 posts

112 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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Nowadays go for Pure-EVs as they are now rated at 2% until the end of March 2025. PHEVs receive low rates as before, but these are now graded based on the pure-electric range available. Those capable of travelling further on electric power receive lower BIK rates.

I always opted for a company car, as it was hassle free motoring. Someone else was keeping me mobile.

Muzzer79

13,035 posts

216 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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With that mileage, take the most tax efficient company supplied car - your 330e is perfect.

s111dpc

1,512 posts

258 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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Having run company cars for years before reverting to my own, I think I would definitely be running a company car on that annual mileage. I would of thought PCP costs would be quite high on those miles, plus you’ve got to factor in all the other costs, insurance, servicing, tyres etc.

jonwm

2,726 posts

143 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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I’ve looked at this again recently.

Always had a company car, left my last place feb 2021 where I had a 2018 330e with fuel card, new job was with a manufacturer so got new car every 6 months for circa £130 and keep my full tax code.

Semi conductors and covid mean that cars are now 15k miles before change and new ones are taking 6 to 12 months ( retail have priority) so they offered us £600 a month gross to come out the scheme, I couldn't make it work with the restrictions of max 5 years, for now I’m staying put, would ideally like a traditional scheme where I could have electric or hybrid, randomly they are much more on a manufacturer scheme.

passat98

Original Poster:

4 posts

141 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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Thanks for all the replies

Pistonsquirter

377 posts

68 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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PCP would have your pants down on 30-40k miles?

I'm on 70k basic, 5k car allowance, I bought a £700 2002 Honda jazz for commuting which we refer to as 'the Tupperware', costs £220 a month in fuel, I keep the rest.
You would need some kind of 911 in the garage to balance out (offset) the lameness though as I do.

mfmman

3,232 posts

212 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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I ran opt out cars for 35-40k per annum for years and always came out slightly above if I had taken the company car

Each time I...

Bought a car a maximum of 3/6 months old, normally from a main dealer

Ran it to the maximum age of five years (or just before if a big service or other cost was looming) in line with company policy

Bought it outright (with support from a personal loan for at least some of the cost) rather than leased or PCP

Made sure I had a cast iron manufacturer warranty in place for the bulk of the intended ownership at purchase. I only ever needed this for one car (a 2007 A4 PD170 which had the well known injector issue, I didn't pay for any of the replacements even when the warranty had expired. All done as goodwill), the other three unreliable VAG products I had were, well reliable smile

Took some equity out each time I PX'd or sold rather than just lumping the maximum back into the next car.

Cars were 2x Passat TDi and 2x A4TDi



Somebody

1,756 posts

112 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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In the last 5 tax years, the most I "paid" in co car tax was £189 per month (lowest £154pm) so not a bad deal in my eyes for hassle free, fully expensed (except for private fuel) motoring.

Bluemondy

400 posts

110 months

Saturday 23rd July 2022
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Pistonsquirter said:
PCP would have your pants down on 30-40k miles?

I'm on 70k basic, 5k car allowance, I bought a £700 2002 Honda jazz for commuting which we refer to as 'the Tupperware', costs £220 a month in fuel, I keep the rest.
You would need some kind of 911 in the garage to balance out (offset) the lameness though as I do.
Your lucky! Our company policy, to qualify for the cash allowance is up to a maximum of 5years old

Sy1441

1,283 posts

189 months

Saturday 23rd July 2022
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As above, you have no option really than to stay in the scheme as that kind of mileage will cost you. Get a Hybrid / Electric and benefit from the low BIK.