For all the pilots on PH, Perfect X wind landings
For all the pilots on PH, Perfect X wind landings
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Extra 300 Driver

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5,282 posts

276 months

Tuesday 9th August 2005
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One word, STUNNING!

I love the treble seven.

http://www.linhadafrente.net/bin/Pousos.wmv

eharding

14,648 posts

314 months

Tuesday 9th August 2005
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Love the "Fast Show" titles...

P1: "Airelinos Humpty-Bumpy Tre Dua Zero, Tre Greenis finale Zero Niiiiiiner"

TWR: "Humpty-Bumpy Dua Zero, ventos Una Ate Zero del Forty Knots, gustos Feeefty Knots, verifcate testiculos del brass."

P2: "El height deeeecisioon, shminky pinky"

(Screeching of tyres, much smoke)

All: "Scorchio!"

LRdriver II

1,936 posts

279 months

Tuesday 9th August 2005
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Yep.. fantastic stuff that looks like some of the 777 certification flying. most airplanes have a max demonstrated crosswind and as such dont count as a limitation. So its up to the cojones of the pilot whether or not he wants to try...

Stuff like this aint on autoland, its the pilots stick'n'rudder skills that get you down on the ground. From a pilots perspective, it is very satisfying to pull off a perfect crosswind landing and gives you a smile when you feel three thumps as you land (upwind main/ downwind main/nosewheel)
The only problem is that hairy crosswinds always seem to come with wet rainy stormy weather with gusts and wind shear. Now you throw aquaplaning into the grip levels and braking action and you have a bundle of fun trying to stop in a straight line.. those are the days the pilots earn their money

theexcession

11,669 posts

280 months

Tuesday 9th August 2005
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Utterly utterly utterly utterly utterly ing ing ity ing stunning.

I once took a flight with Aeroflot - London to Moscow and then on into India. Landing in Moscow I had that distinct feeling of - hell how can I describe this - imagine a clock face with 12 o'clock straigt ahead - towards the cockpit at the front of the plane. Well we were facing 12 o'clock but moving towards about half past 2 o'clock.

As the plane touched the ground there was an audible screach, a bounce and another screach. People that hadn't strapped themselves in properly went OVER the seats of the people in front. Anything and everything loose in the cabin ended up against the bulk heads. The entire plane filled with a sickening smell of burning rubber.

Finally, there was one all mighty cheer when trajectories appeared to return to normal.

No shit folks - this was the VERY VERY FIRST time I'd ever flown - ever - and I walked away thinking that was a normal landing for an aeroplane! ing awesome - what a laugh. I've since learned after many many many long haul flights that generally big planes don't land like this.

Now I know what it must've looked like from the outside.

For me, this video beats anything I've ever seen the Red Arrows do - ity y awesome!

That is such a HUGE amount of metal to be putting down in those conditions and at that angle!

(Still stunned after watching this vid 10times)

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Ex

tw... did anyone notice the line in the sound track "Just believe in destiny...." lmao.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Tuesday 9th August 2005
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If they can do that, why do Reliant Robins fall over....?

theexcession

11,669 posts

280 months

Tuesday 9th August 2005
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mybrainhurts said:
If they can do that, why do Reliant Robins fall over....?

As the Wonder Stuff once sang, it's all about INERTIA

cross-eyed-twit

9,703 posts

290 months

Tuesday 9th August 2005
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do bear in mind computers have a lot to do with it...
much like stability control in a car but in 3 dimensions

Extra 300 Driver

Original Poster:

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276 months

Tuesday 9th August 2005
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cross-eyed-twit said:
do bear in mind computers have a lot to do with it...
much like stability control in a car but in 3 dimensions


Not in Boeings they dont. Airbus are the CPU flown Aircraft.

munky

5,328 posts

278 months

Tuesday 9th August 2005
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No video, but there are some interesting photos in this vein




How not to do it


Some amazing photos on that website

theexcession

11,669 posts

280 months

Tuesday 9th August 2005
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Extra 300 Driver said:

Not in Boeings they dont. Airbus are the CPU flown Aircraft.


Thanks again for the link - been watching this vid over and over - bit like watching in car footage of Gronholm or Solberg driving a stage, utterly fascinating.

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Ex

ETSBM - Edited To Say Bugger Me (As opposed to EFART - Edited For Alcohol Related Typos) We appear to share the same surname. Do your family hail from Lincolnshire or would you be one of the other clans?


>> Edited by theexcession on Tuesday 9th August 23:51

apache

39,731 posts

314 months

Tuesday 9th August 2005
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Has anyone had a look round the cockpit of a B52? there's a protracter type bezel around the nws wheel so you can dial in compensation for crosswind, in other words you realign the main gear to take you down the runway when you approach sideways, kin amazing stuff

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

264 months

Wednesday 10th August 2005
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I remember the FOM plane once landed in some country (don't remember which GP it was), and did about 4 powerslides down the runway.

Scary.

munky

5,328 posts

278 months

Wednesday 10th August 2005
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apache said:
Has anyone had a look round the cockpit of a B52? there's a protracter type bezel around the nws wheel so you can dial in compensation for crosswind, in other words you realign the main gear to take you down the runway when you approach sideways, kin amazing stuff


From looking at the video, something similar is going on in those Boeings

Eric Mc

125,674 posts

295 months

Wednesday 10th August 2005
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The Lockheed C-5A/B Galaxy also has the ability to angle its fuselage in respect to the main undercarriage bogies. As a result, it can land right onto the runway with the wheels pointing straight up the runway and the fuselage pointing at some crazy angle.

In 1978 the USAF flew elements of the Irish Army to the Lebanon for US peacekeeping duties in a fleet of C-5s and C-141s. I well remember watching C-5s approaching Dublin's old Runway 24 totally crabbed into the strong crosswind and not needing to straighten up until AFTER they had touched down. Amazing to watch.

And none of that was fly by wire!

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hammerwerfer

3,234 posts

270 months

Wednesday 10th August 2005
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Eric Mc said:


In 1978 the USAF flew elements of the Irish Army to the Lebanon for US peacekeeping duties in a fleet of C-5s and C-141s.


It find it embarrassing that the Irish forces have to be transported to trouble spots aboard other countries' aircraft.

It was also a bit farcical when the Silver Swallows had to be grounded due to the old Fouga Magisters' airfraimes timing out. I think they flew their last shows with only thre operational aircraft.

Celtic Tiger and strongest economy in the EU and still hitching lifts?

wolves_wanderer

12,956 posts

267 months

Wednesday 10th August 2005
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Just use a helicopter, you can always land into the wind with that...runways, pah!

Le TVR

3,097 posts

281 months

Wednesday 10th August 2005
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LRdriver II said:
So its up to the cojones of the pilot whether or not he wants to try...


Used to happen a lot at Kai-Tak, espacially with certain Asian airlines where G/A would be considered as 'loss of face'... so they "went for it"

There some video around a good KAL attempt.

Nothing like seeing the piano keys side-on to get the adrenalin pumping

Extra 300 Driver

Original Poster:

5,282 posts

276 months

Wednesday 10th August 2005
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theexcession said:

Extra 300 Driver said:

Not in Boeings they dont. Airbus are the CPU flown Aircraft.



Thanks again for the link - been watching this vid over and over - bit like watching in car footage of Gronholm or Solberg driving a stage, utterly fascinating.

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Ex

ETSBM - Edited To Say Bugger Me (As opposed to EFART - Edited For Alcohol Related Typos) We appear to share the same surname. Do your family hail from Lincolnshire or would you be one of the other clans?


>> Edited by theexcession on Tuesday 9th August 23:51



Mum?

I dont know, I will look into it. I know my father is from Kent with his father from Wales.

jonnyb

2,590 posts

282 months

Wednesday 10th August 2005
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All I would say is "Sorry girls its the Boeing recommended technique"

Although you would have to be pretty brave to land with all the crab on, and on a dry runway! Bloody test pilots!

Don't show this to my company or that 30kts limit will be out of the window!

r988

7,495 posts

259 months

Wednesday 10th August 2005
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Le TVR said:

LRdriver II said:
So its up to the cojones of the pilot whether or not he wants to try...



Used to happen a lot at Kai-Tak, espacially with certain Asian airlines where G/A would be considered as 'loss of face'... so they "went for it"

There some video around a good KAL attempt.

Nothing like seeing the piano keys side-on to get the adrenalin pumping


Haven't seen any vids on the net of Kai-Tak, but I have got some amazing photos of approachs there, lying around on an old hard drive somewhere.