Strange incident
Discussion
On monday, 15 months after my dad passed we finally got the district valuer to agree on the value of his house.
My brothers and I will be selling the house...
My family have owned the house for nearly 50 years.my grandad paid for the house outright so my folks had no mortgage back in the 70s.
Anyway , the strange bit is the next day I was standing outside my work in canary wharf and I opened an email on my phone from my brother about cgt on the house sale, when a dark blue L plate early 70s triumph 2000 slowly passed me .
This was the exact same car and colour that my grandad owned for the last 15 years of his life.
My dad found him dead in his garage next to the car in 1982 when he didn't arrive at our house.
Really spooky moment. As if his ghost came past me to say' oi I bought that house!'
This is a car you only see at car shows now. Indeed the last time I saw one was at the annual bromley car show years ago.
Put a little chill down me!
My brothers and I will be selling the house...
My family have owned the house for nearly 50 years.my grandad paid for the house outright so my folks had no mortgage back in the 70s.
Anyway , the strange bit is the next day I was standing outside my work in canary wharf and I opened an email on my phone from my brother about cgt on the house sale, when a dark blue L plate early 70s triumph 2000 slowly passed me .
This was the exact same car and colour that my grandad owned for the last 15 years of his life.
My dad found him dead in his garage next to the car in 1982 when he didn't arrive at our house.
Really spooky moment. As if his ghost came past me to say' oi I bought that house!'
This is a car you only see at car shows now. Indeed the last time I saw one was at the annual bromley car show years ago.
Put a little chill down me!
I like synchronicity like that, nice story
A slight aside regarding CGT on the house sale. As you'll already know there is the "executor" cgt allowance, separate to your own. Or another option which can be used is that instead of selling the house, paying any cgt and then distributing the proceeds to the beneficiaries you can do a variation and give the house to all the beneficiaries and they sell the house. Then each individual can use their cgt allowance. It really depends on how big the cgt bill is whether it's worth doing.
I looked at it for my parents' house as the value had gone up from the date of death. The reason I didn't use that approach was that a number of the beneficiaries were young and had never owned a house. If we'd done the variation they would not have been able to use any of the incentives for first time buyers in the future, lifetime isa etc.
TL:DR get advice on cgt
A slight aside regarding CGT on the house sale. As you'll already know there is the "executor" cgt allowance, separate to your own. Or another option which can be used is that instead of selling the house, paying any cgt and then distributing the proceeds to the beneficiaries you can do a variation and give the house to all the beneficiaries and they sell the house. Then each individual can use their cgt allowance. It really depends on how big the cgt bill is whether it's worth doing.
I looked at it for my parents' house as the value had gone up from the date of death. The reason I didn't use that approach was that a number of the beneficiaries were young and had never owned a house. If we'd done the variation they would not have been able to use any of the incentives for first time buyers in the future, lifetime isa etc.
TL:DR get advice on cgt
Mr Dendrite said:
I like synchronicity like that, nice story
A slight aside regarding CGT on the house sale. As you'll already know there is the "executor" cgt allowance, separate to your own. Or another option which can be used is that instead of selling the house, paying any cgt and then distributing the proceeds to the beneficiaries you can do a variation and give the house to all the beneficiaries and they sell the house. Then each individual can use their cgt allowance. It really depends on how big the cgt bill is whether it's worth doing.
I looked at it for my parents' house as the value had gone up from the date of death. The reason I didn't use that approach was that a number of the beneficiaries were young and had never owned a house. If we'd done the variation they would not have been able to use any of the incentives for first time buyers in the future, lifetime isa etc.
TL:DR get advice on cgt
CGT? Surely he should be looking at IHT in the case of a house sale from a bereavement? A slight aside regarding CGT on the house sale. As you'll already know there is the "executor" cgt allowance, separate to your own. Or another option which can be used is that instead of selling the house, paying any cgt and then distributing the proceeds to the beneficiaries you can do a variation and give the house to all the beneficiaries and they sell the house. Then each individual can use their cgt allowance. It really depends on how big the cgt bill is whether it's worth doing.
I looked at it for my parents' house as the value had gone up from the date of death. The reason I didn't use that approach was that a number of the beneficiaries were young and had never owned a house. If we'd done the variation they would not have been able to use any of the incentives for first time buyers in the future, lifetime isa etc.
TL:DR get advice on cgt
davidc1 said:
Put a little chill down me!
Many years ago, a good friend entered into a Marriage doomed to failure, a fact recognised by everyone apart from him.On the wedding day, he wore his late Father's Omega watch - an older wind-up type. He noticed just before the ceremony that the watch had stopped. He wound it up, shook it but nothing. It bugged him throughout the day. In the evening, he noticed that the watch had started working again but was also telling the correct time.
You want spooky ? This freaked me out ....... We wanted to sprinkle late father's ashes in Broadstairs , his favourite place. We identified the top of the cliffs by the bandstand as suitable but because of the high wind we chose another spot in the sand quite a way out due to the tide being out ...... Fast forward several weeks and we are house clearing. I find an old digital camera of his but the batteries were flat . After a charge I switched the camera on and the first picture it showed me on the rear screen was a picture taken of the exact same spot we buried his ashes !!!! No , I cannot explain it either.
gfreeman said:
Mr Dendrite said:
I like synchronicity like that, nice story
A slight aside regarding CGT on the house sale. As you'll already know there is the "executor" cgt allowance, separate to your own. Or another option which can be used is that instead of selling the house, paying any cgt and then distributing the proceeds to the beneficiaries you can do a variation and give the house to all the beneficiaries and they sell the house. Then each individual can use their cgt allowance. It really depends on how big the cgt bill is whether it's worth doing.
I looked at it for my parents' house as the value had gone up from the date of death. The reason I didn't use that approach was that a number of the beneficiaries were young and had never owned a house. If we'd done the variation they would not have been able to use any of the incentives for first time buyers in the future, lifetime isa etc.
TL:DR get advice on cgt
CGT? Surely he should be looking at IHT in the case of a house sale from a bereavement? A slight aside regarding CGT on the house sale. As you'll already know there is the "executor" cgt allowance, separate to your own. Or another option which can be used is that instead of selling the house, paying any cgt and then distributing the proceeds to the beneficiaries you can do a variation and give the house to all the beneficiaries and they sell the house. Then each individual can use their cgt allowance. It really depends on how big the cgt bill is whether it's worth doing.
I looked at it for my parents' house as the value had gone up from the date of death. The reason I didn't use that approach was that a number of the beneficiaries were young and had never owned a house. If we'd done the variation they would not have been able to use any of the incentives for first time buyers in the future, lifetime isa etc.
TL:DR get advice on cgt
Mr Dendrite said:
I like synchronicity like that...
Me too. My grandma passed away nearly two years ago now. One of her favourite songs was 'Together in Electric Dreams' by Phil Oakey. We got the call from the hospital that things had taken a turn for the worse on a Sunday morning, so my mum went over to be with her. As she was pulling into the car park Together in Electric Dreams was playing on the radio. She hung on for a few hours, and passed just after 4pm that afternoon. Smooth Radio was playing in the hospital room, and Together in Electric Dreams started playing as she passed away. I checked on the last played songs online the next day when my dad told me and it did indeed start playing at 16:07, the exact time she passed.
A week or so later after the funeral we were following the hearse to the crematorium. I was with my parents in their car sat in the back. The radio was on, but turned down. I noticed the radio text on the screen, 'Now Playing: Together in Electric Dreams...'
Another couple of weeks later I was at work, visiting a site to look at some computer equipment that had gone down. I was pointed to an office and told no one had been in there all day because the computer wasn't working. I went in and noticed the radio playing on one of the PCs. Odd, considering no one had been in there. It was only playing adverts but I thought nothing of it. I sat down and started to look at the faulty kit when the adverts finished when I got a shiver down my back and a Smooth Radio jingle played. I instantly looked round as it suddenly felt like I wasn't alone, then Together In Electric Dreams started playing.
It's all more than likely just very strange coincidences, but still... freaked me out slightly!
Not only that, but my grandad (who was in a nursing home at the time she passed, and due to covid restrictions at the time they hadn't been able to see each other for a few weeks) was adamant that she spoke to him the night she died, despite her passing away in the afternoon. Her last words were 'tell [grandads name] that I love him'. When we told him he said, 'I know, she told me last night'. We expected him to be inconsolable, they'd been married for near enough 70 years and absolutely doted on one another. But it was like he'd come to terms with it already. Very unexpected, but very comforting too.
You want spooky
In a supermarket I thought I saw a guy & his wife who was a neighbour / friend of my dads, in the 1970s.
Said hello. She was a bit spooked as the week before they had randomly chatted & wondered what happened to me.
Roll forward 2 weeks. The wife & I had lunch at the Ritz for a big anniversary. 30 miles from here.
Guess who was at the next table! Spooky…
In a supermarket I thought I saw a guy & his wife who was a neighbour / friend of my dads, in the 1970s.
Said hello. She was a bit spooked as the week before they had randomly chatted & wondered what happened to me.
Roll forward 2 weeks. The wife & I had lunch at the Ritz for a big anniversary. 30 miles from here.
Guess who was at the next table! Spooky…
A good friend of mine from Glasgow had a gathering a couple of months after his dad had passed away, and part of it was to open a bottle of Whiskey his father had kept for 40 odd years.
Before opening it, we used Google Goggles to scan it and see if we could find any information on it as it wasn't a mainstream brand.
After a minute of searching for images, it finally came up with a web page, now I can't quite remember exactly what it was but it was something along the lines of "to my son"
He almost dropped the bottle.
Before opening it, we used Google Goggles to scan it and see if we could find any information on it as it wasn't a mainstream brand.
After a minute of searching for images, it finally came up with a web page, now I can't quite remember exactly what it was but it was something along the lines of "to my son"
He almost dropped the bottle.
James6112 said:
You want spooky
In a supermarket I thought I saw a guy & his wife who was a neighbour / friend of my dads, in the 1970s.
Said hello. She was a bit spooked as the week before they had randomly chatted & wondered what happened to me.
Roll forward 2 weeks. The wife & I had lunch at the Ritz for a big anniversary. 30 miles from here.
Guess who was at the next table! Spooky…
Spooky doesn’t do this justice. That must have been terrifying, I’m glad you survived! Thanks for sharing that spooky taleIn a supermarket I thought I saw a guy & his wife who was a neighbour / friend of my dads, in the 1970s.
Said hello. She was a bit spooked as the week before they had randomly chatted & wondered what happened to me.
Roll forward 2 weeks. The wife & I had lunch at the Ritz for a big anniversary. 30 miles from here.
Guess who was at the next table! Spooky…
My favourite (& true) story was when my mate and I were travelling in the mid-90s.
Leaving a hotel in Auckland after breakfast, waiting for a cab outside the lobby when my mate heard a familiar voice. It was his mother who had joined the queue behind us.
His folks were divorced, he'd not spoken to her in 3 years so she had no idea we were in NZ and vice versa.
Nothing spooky, just a coincidence with incalculable odds - relatives from the UK going to NZ, at the same time, staying in the same hotel for a single night & being in the same cab queue.
5 mins either way we would never have seen her.
Leaving a hotel in Auckland after breakfast, waiting for a cab outside the lobby when my mate heard a familiar voice. It was his mother who had joined the queue behind us.
His folks were divorced, he'd not spoken to her in 3 years so she had no idea we were in NZ and vice versa.
Nothing spooky, just a coincidence with incalculable odds - relatives from the UK going to NZ, at the same time, staying in the same hotel for a single night & being in the same cab queue.
5 mins either way we would never have seen her.
Edited by OzzyR1 on Monday 1st August 00:57
When I was five, 50 years ago my auntie, uncle and niece emigrated to Australia. We moved, they moved and lost touch with my parents. 12 years later on boxing Day morning my father said let's go for a walk in St Nicolas Everything park in Out on Broad, we had never been before.
We are walking along the waters edge when my mum said "Terry, that's your sister!" walking towards us was my auntie, uncle and now grown up niece.
This was their first visit to the UK, that morning she had woken up and said let's go to that park.
Since that day there have been many trips to Australia and the uk
We are walking along the waters edge when my mum said "Terry, that's your sister!" walking towards us was my auntie, uncle and now grown up niece.
This was their first visit to the UK, that morning she had woken up and said let's go to that park.
Since that day there have been many trips to Australia and the uk
OzzyR1 said:
My favourite (& true) story was when my mate and I were travelling in the mid-90s.
Leaving a hotel in Auckland after breakfast, waiting for a cab outside the lobby when my mate heard a familiar voice. It was his mother who had joined the queue behind us.
His folks were divorced, he'd not spoken to her in 3 years so she had no idea we were in NZ and vice versa.
Nothing spooky, just a coincidence with incalculable odds - relatives from the UK going to NZ, at the same time, staying in the same hotel for a single night & being in the same cab queue.
5 mins either way we would never have seen her.
We were in Majorca on a family holiday and had rented one of those 4 seater bike type thingy and were cycling down the promenade in the resort we were staying in when we heard somebody running up behind us calling our names.Leaving a hotel in Auckland after breakfast, waiting for a cab outside the lobby when my mate heard a familiar voice. It was his mother who had joined the queue behind us.
His folks were divorced, he'd not spoken to her in 3 years so she had no idea we were in NZ and vice versa.
Nothing spooky, just a coincidence with incalculable odds - relatives from the UK going to NZ, at the same time, staying in the same hotel for a single night & being in the same cab queue.
5 mins either way we would never have seen her.
Edited by OzzyR1 on Monday 1st August 00:57
We felt a jolt as whoever it was jumped on the back of the thingy. It was our next door neighbour, on holiday in the same resort in the hotel next to ours.
Neither of us had told the other we were going on holiday.
I also had a friend who met some people in the gathering area in preparation for the bridge climb in Sydney Harbour. They got talking and discovered they both lived in the same town in Suffolk just round the corner from each other and that was the first time they had ever met.
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