Vacuum oil/fluid extractor -recommendations?
Vacuum oil/fluid extractor -recommendations?
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Stedman

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7,470 posts

222 months

Friday 29th July 2022
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As above, any recommendations?

I don’t really fancy something like this coming apart in dipstick tubes or power steering reservoir hehe

Many thanks..

Chris32345

2,141 posts

92 months

Friday 29th July 2022
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I've seen the Pela ones been well recommended

Stedman

Original Poster:

7,470 posts

222 months

Sunday 31st July 2022
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Thank you

Spare tyre

12,581 posts

160 months

Sunday 31st July 2022
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I got one of the electronic ones from aldi or Lidl , was about 15 quid

Not fantastic and not terrible

Certainly changed lots of oil, works much better when oil is not cold

Other top tip, 10 litre adblue bottles you see dumped every where, if they have the lid they are fantastic for storing waste oil

Stedman

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7,470 posts

222 months

Sunday 31st July 2022
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hehe

Thank you

donkmeister

12,961 posts

130 months

Monday 1st August 2022
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A vote for the 14l pela here. You might be thinking "but I don't need 14l". True, but you never worry about running out of room and for most cars, if you really wanted you can do a "rinse and repeat" oil change without having to empty the tank.

Some cars do have prodigious amounts of oil in them too (the Toyota V8s have about 10l for instance) so could be handy for cars you don't have yet.

Captain Answer

1,376 posts

217 months

Monday 1st August 2022
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I had a plea vacuum but I never got on with it, never seemed to vacuum properly

I got this electronic one in 2016 - been faultless and does a great job extracting oil, don't even bother cracking the sump plugs now, last one I did bother literally a thimble full of oil come out

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004VEF1G4/ref...

LunarOne

7,323 posts

167 months

Monday 1st August 2022
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How do you make sure you've got to the bottom of the sump from the top of the engine? Are you going down through the dipstick shaft? In every engine I've had, there's a lot of crankshaft-related gubbins directly underneath the oil filler port...

Captain Answer

1,376 posts

217 months

Monday 1st August 2022
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LunarOne said:
How do you make sure you've got to the bottom of the sump from the top of the engine? Are you going down through the dipstick shaft? In every engine I've had, there's a lot of crankshaft-related gubbins directly underneath the oil filler port...
You go down the dip stick tube mate, when I do it with my electric one you feed it down and you can hear/see as it gets good suction, leave it running till sound changes then do it again n again a few times till your happy its all out

Also watch where you put your bottle to catch the waste, makes a right mess when you kick it over like a complete tw@t

kambites

71,540 posts

251 months

Monday 1st August 2022
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Maybe I'm missing something but I've never quite seen the point in these if used for engine oil. Surely if you're changing the oil you're also changing the oil filter, which on every car I've owned has been at the bottom of the engine, pretty close to the sump plug. So once you're down there anyway why not just remove the sump plug and drain the oil out properly?

Or do people not bother to change the filter these days?

Captain Answer

1,376 posts

217 months

Monday 1st August 2022
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kambites said:
Maybe I'm missing something but I've never quite seen the point in these if used for engine oil. Surely if you're changing the oil you're also changing the oil filter, which on every car I've owned has been at the bottom of the engine, pretty close to the sump plug. So once you're down there anyway why not just remove the sump plug and drain the oil out properly?

Or do people not bother to change the filter these days?
Most main dealers now don't take out the plugs, they extract, some cars now don't even have plugs - extracting it I find is cleaner as you pump it out into a container in a controlled flow rather than splash it out a hole in the bottom into a pan

You still do the filter as you say, location can very - both my vw's the filter is next to the cylinder head so I don't even lift the car to do them

kambites

71,540 posts

251 months

Monday 1st August 2022
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Captain Answer said:
Most main dealers now don't take out the plugs, they extract, some cars now don't even have plugs - extracting it I find is cleaner as you pump it out into a container in a controlled flow rather than splash it out a hole in the bottom into a pan

You still do the filter as you say, location can very - both my vw's the filter is next to the cylinder head so I don't even lift the car to do them
Cheers, interesting to know that some manufacturers put the filter near the top now. Makes a lot of sense in that case.

HealeyV8

451 posts

108 months

Monday 1st August 2022
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Obviously not engine oil but for power steering I used a turkey baster successfully

B'stard Child

31,117 posts

276 months

Monday 1st August 2022
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kambites said:
Maybe I'm missing something but I've never quite seen the point in these if used for engine oil. Surely if you're changing the oil you're also changing the oil filter, which on every car I've owned has been at the bottom of the engine, pretty close to the sump plug. So once you're down there anyway why not just remove the sump plug and drain the oil out properly?

Or do people not bother to change the filter these days?
I used to be of the same opinion - until I purchased a mercedes with a steel undertray that takes two people to remove and refit!!!!

The amount left in the sump compared to dropping it out the drain plug was no more than an egg cup full

I don’t use it on every car but where I can prove that it removes nearly as much as dropping the sump plug I’ll use it

My E82 125i doesn’t have a dip stick so has to be done by dropping the sump plug

Stedman

Original Poster:

7,470 posts

222 months

Monday 1st August 2022
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Captain Answer said:
Most main dealers now don't take out the plugs, they extract, some cars now don't even have plugs - extracting it I find is cleaner as you pump it out into a container in a controlled flow rather than splash it out a hole in the bottom into a pan

You still do the filter as you say, location can very - both my vw's the filter is next to the cylinder head so I don't even lift the car to do them
It’s good for more than just engine oil, but it makes a six-monthly change a little easier.

My friend’s car has the filter up top in the engine bay - win win

TarquinMX5

2,675 posts

110 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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Most, if not all, Mercedes have the filter on top; certainly the ones I've had for the past 20-years have (older one was underneath)

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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My Megane has the filter on the top. When I changed the oil I reversed onto the drive as it has a slope and the dipstick is at the front of the engine.

The engine holds 4.5 litres of oil and I pretty much got that amount out of it.

It's a shed, I will definitely be doing oil changes this way from now on.

donkmeister

12,961 posts

130 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
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kambites said:
Maybe I'm missing something but I've never quite seen the point in these if used for engine oil. Surely if you're changing the oil you're also changing the oil filter, which on every car I've owned has been at the bottom of the engine, pretty close to the sump plug. So once you're down there anyway why not just remove the sump plug and drain the oil out properly?

Or do people not bother to change the filter these days?
I don't know if this is a Mercedes feature across all models but on my W211 E-Class the filter is up top. The idea is that for an A-service all work can be done from above, so oil filter and oil drain are done from above. The M113 engine doesn't even have a dipstick, what looks like a dipstick tube is purely for oil extraction.

Other cars I've had, the oil filter can be more easily replaced from above. I'd say approximately 25% of the cars I've owned require oil filter changes from below.

The sump plug isn't always at the lowest point anyway, many are on the side of the sump, a few mm above the bottom.

mattyprice4004

1,342 posts

204 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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I've had my PELA 6000 for many years - takes some pumping to build up a vacuum (make sure the oil is hot to help things along!) but does the job nicely.
Brilliant bit of kit, and the one time I did use the sump plug to flush out the crud my friends all guaranteed would be in there I found absolutely nothing.

Baldchap

9,629 posts

122 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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I love a Pela pump. Been using them off and on for 20 years or so. One thing to note is not to use it for petrol as it kills the seals.