Trainwreck: Woodstock ‘99
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Brilliant documentary.
Woodstock ‘99 was meant to be the rekindling of ‘the age of Aquarius’ but went badly wrong.
I was 22 in 1999, so it’s my generation under the spotlight, which makes for interesting viewing.
Highly recommend!
Spoilers below:
Watched all 3 parts and you start thinking the crowd are entitled morons, then you see the way the organisers treated the festival goers with contempt, tried to extract as much money from them as possible.
Having criminally under resourced the event, naïvely not had real police on site, and then lost control of events with their arrogant attitude toward the building tension I ended up feeling sorry for the festival goers.
Instead of handing out 100,000 candles a better idea may have been to hand out 250,000 bottles of water on the Saturday.
I was expecting a tale of moronic youth.
I watched a parable about corporate greed.
Johnathan Davies from Korn & Gavin Rossendale from Bush come across really well.
Norman Cook (Fatboy Slim) not so well.
Can we also now agree that as fun as may have seemed at the time Limp Bizkit is not our generation’s finest cultural artefact.
Woodstock ‘99 was meant to be the rekindling of ‘the age of Aquarius’ but went badly wrong.
I was 22 in 1999, so it’s my generation under the spotlight, which makes for interesting viewing.
Highly recommend!
Spoilers below:
Watched all 3 parts and you start thinking the crowd are entitled morons, then you see the way the organisers treated the festival goers with contempt, tried to extract as much money from them as possible.
Having criminally under resourced the event, naïvely not had real police on site, and then lost control of events with their arrogant attitude toward the building tension I ended up feeling sorry for the festival goers.
Instead of handing out 100,000 candles a better idea may have been to hand out 250,000 bottles of water on the Saturday.
I was expecting a tale of moronic youth.
I watched a parable about corporate greed.
Johnathan Davies from Korn & Gavin Rossendale from Bush come across really well.
Norman Cook (Fatboy Slim) not so well.
Can we also now agree that as fun as may have seemed at the time Limp Bizkit is not our generation’s finest cultural artefact.
From what I've heard and seen of the event it looked like absolute carnage. Held on an old air force base in sweltering heat, organisers charging $10 for bottles of water, people breaking through perimiter fences to get out of the event.
£10/$10 today would be a disgrace let alone in 99!
£10/$10 today would be a disgrace let alone in 99!
SlimJim16v said:
Stick Legs said:
I was expecting a tale of moronic youth.
I watched a parable about corporate greed.
What about the rapes? I watched a parable about corporate greed.
He was a greedy f
k and shows no remorse.Stick Legs said:
Not for a second trying to ignore the sexual assaults that occurred, and doubtless there were many more than reported. The response from John Scher is horrific to watch.
He was a greedy fk and shows no remorse.
That was particularly hard to watch.He was a greedy f
k and shows no remorse.I heard of the festival being a disaster so found this interesting and was expecting a Fyre fest type disaster (also a good watch on Netflix).
Was it covered much in the UK news or music press? I was 17 at the time and remember vaguely being aware of a new Woodstock but it came s as a complete shock about how it ended.
Didn’t think Norman Cook came over badly? Went there wanting to do a good job, was frustrated when he had to pause his set, then got out of there when it turned nasty.
Didn’t think Norman Cook came over badly? Went there wanting to do a good job, was frustrated when he had to pause his set, then got out of there when it turned nasty.
Watched and enjoyed it, came to the same conclusions.
Like others, I'm of that generation and it was uncomfortable but also useful to view 'our' attitudes towards women through a 2022 lens. I appreciate that it was an extreme event and the documentary was intentionally framed to make that point though.
Like others, I'm of that generation and it was uncomfortable but also useful to view 'our' attitudes towards women through a 2022 lens. I appreciate that it was an extreme event and the documentary was intentionally framed to make that point though.
I was transfixed by this documentary, one of the best things I’ve watched this year. Dimly aware of it at the time and as a 23yo I’d have probably gone if I lived in that part of the US. Notable absence from the talking heads was Fred Durst, but then again as one of them said, a bear is a bear and LB acted exactly as you’d expect.
Thought Norman Cook was looking a bit weather beaten. But then isn’t everyone!
Thought Norman Cook was looking a bit weather beaten. But then isn’t everyone!
TO73074E said:
From what I've heard and seen of the event it looked like absolute carnage. Held on an old air force base in sweltering heat, organisers charging $10 for bottles of water, people breaking through perimiter fences to get out of the event.
£10/$10 today would be a disgrace let alone in 99!
Ive heard this used to be a thing at illegal/ semi legal raves in the early 90s - 10 quid for a bottle of water./ taps turned off.£10/$10 today would be a disgrace let alone in 99!
Old tricks never die...
That documentary was really interesting, but for me the worst thing to come out of it was to remember the whole bro culture around Nu Metal and how awful it was. It really has not aged very well and the anarchy caused by that festival can be linked to many different things, some corporate greed and some cultural.
Normal Cook came off as ok. He just wasn't aware what was happening during that rave. Fred Durst though - what a tool.
Normal Cook came off as ok. He just wasn't aware what was happening during that rave. Fred Durst though - what a tool.
Me and the wife ended up watching it all in one evening.
I was 22 at the time and do actually remember it having coverage, but at the time I was buying Kerrang and metal hammer every issue so I was in the rock/metal scene.
It seemed that the guys booking the bands had no clue what type of bands they were booking?!?!?! I mean I dont think of peace and love when i think of any of those acts!
I was 22 at the time and do actually remember it having coverage, but at the time I was buying Kerrang and metal hammer every issue so I was in the rock/metal scene.
It seemed that the guys booking the bands had no clue what type of bands they were booking?!?!?! I mean I dont think of peace and love when i think of any of those acts!
Very captivating - as many have said, I have a faint memory of this getting coverage over here when it happened.
Difficult to tell through the 'netflix lens' - how much has been drawn out / exaggerated for effect - but that looks like it could have turned out SO much worse (and that in no way belittles the tragic events that they did highlight)... I just mean all the ingredients were there for that to have been a tragedy of great proportions.
Difficult to tell through the 'netflix lens' - how much has been drawn out / exaggerated for effect - but that looks like it could have turned out SO much worse (and that in no way belittles the tragic events that they did highlight)... I just mean all the ingredients were there for that to have been a tragedy of great proportions.
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