Batgirl 2022...or not

[rodericb]

Movie nearly completed but has been yoinked from release for some mysterious reason(s)....!

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/movies/upcom...

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/movies/batgi...


A lot of rumour, innuendo and conjecture. And probably finger pointing to boot. The plop plot thickens....!

[Truckosaurus]

Due to the murky world of film finance (lots of government grants and tax breaks etc) you can understand why its cheaper to just bin the whole footage rather than pay to finish, release and promote it.

Especially if it was for a platform that would be showing it for 'free'.

[A Winner Is You]

Am I just being wildly optimistic in thinking this and the success of Top Gun Maverick are signs that people are finally getting bored of superhero movies? Although given that their plans involved films with Amber Heard and Erza Miller in prominent roles, you can see why they're trying to salvage whatever they can.

[pidsy]

Overlord did a rumour video about why bat girl was canned

https://youtu.be/GqR2aaaHFiY

[GregK2]

[Halmyre]

This is bound to stir up interest and next thing you know, surprise, surprise, we'll release it after all...

[Evercross]

A Winner Is You said:

Although given that their plans involved films with Amber Heard and Erza Miller in prominent roles, you can see why they're trying to salvage whatever they can.

You've hit the nail on the head with this. For Batgirl to make sense then Aquaman 2 and The Flash needed to be released first, and both films are now facing costly reshoots because of their toxic stars (Miller and Heard), to the extent that the Flash will probably be canned and Aquaman 2 will be re-cut to remove Heard.

Batgirl was probably pish anyway and the above sealed the deal for its fate. Shame that Glasgow City Council pissed £150,000 of taxpayer's money into the project for no return in exposure...

[kalexan273]

Most expensive film never to be released? I think Disney might be saying 'hold my beer', espeically with the last few films being complete cluster nuts.

Issue WB have is that it's a JJ Abrams led initiative, though you don't hear his name being bandied about much now. With Aquaman 2 due out having the Amber Heard issue and the Flash film having similar problems due to Ezra Miller's off screen shenanigans I reckon the DC universe is pretty much in the dumpster at the moment.

Maybe the Superhero films are slowly waning now?

[Olivera]

Evercross said:

Shame that Glasgow City Council pissed £150,000 of taxpayer's money into the project for no return in exposure...

One of the many small local businesses that were forced to shut for filming revealed they got the grand total of £30 per day, so they lost significant money in order to fund a Warner Brothers tax right-off.

[A Winner Is You]

Evercross said:

A Winner Is You said:

Although given that their plans involved films with Amber Heard and Erza Miller in prominent roles, you can see why they're trying to salvage whatever they can.

You've hit the nail on the head with this. For Batgirl to make sense then Aquaman 2 and The Flash needed to be released first, and both films are now facing costly reshoots because of their toxic stars (Miller and Heard), to the extent that the Flash will probably be canned and Aquaman 2 will be re-cut to remove Heard.

Batgirl was probably pish anyway and the above sealed the deal for its fate. Shame that Glasgow City Council pissed £150,000 of taxpayer's money into the project for no return in exposure...

I'm surprised there hasn't been more coverage of Miller. Perhaps because it's so bizarre that no one would believe it's true.

[Evercross]

A Winner Is You said:

I'm surprised there hasn't been more coverage of Miller. Perhaps because it's so bizarre that no one would believe it's true.

Probably because the entertainment industry are embarrassed that someone they lauded as a gender-fluid bohemian turned out be a sexual predator and a paedophile....?

[saaby93]

pidsy said:

Overlord did a rumour video about why bat girl was canned

https://youtu.be/GqR2aaaHFiY

11.5 minutes of life to say nothing much ?
something about this actor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller

[ChocolateFrog]

A Winner Is You said:

Am I just being wildly optimistic in thinking this and the success of Top Gun Maverick are signs that people are finally getting bored of superhero movies? Although given that their plans involved films with Amber Heard and Erza Miller in prominent roles, you can see why they're trying to salvage whatever they can.

Unfortunately not.

They're releasing a 10 year plan for the DCU which will no doubt involve about 30 movies.

My guess is this one was total ste.

[Skeptisk]

Olivera said:

Evercross said:

Shame that Glasgow City Council pissed £150,000 of taxpayer's money into the project for no return in exposure...

One of the many small local businesses that were forced to shut for filming revealed they got the grand total of £30 per day, so they lost significant money in order to fund a Warner Brothers tax right-off.

US tax can be a bit weird but unless there are some really special rules by not releasing it that have just accelerated the tax deduction not created a new one. If they had released the film they would have had to spread the tax deduction over the life of the film. So a timing advantage. Sounds a bit BS to me and an attempt to deflect from the real reason ie film was appalling or as the Critical Drinker is suggesting a backlash against films that preach the message.

[Blackpuddin]

BBC Radio Wales said it was canned because of terrible feedback from pre-launch showings.

[JagLover]

Skeptisk said:

US tax can be a bit weird but unless there are some really special rules by not releasing it that have just accelerated the tax deduction not created a new one. If they had released the film they would have had to spread the tax deduction over the life of the film. So a timing advantage. Sounds a bit BS to me and an attempt to deflect from the real reason ie film was appalling or as the Critical Drinker is suggesting a backlash against films that preach the message.

It seems highly likely it was a move toward greater quality to avoid further devaluing the brand. We have gone through a few years where studios will churn out any old rubbish and hope that some box ticking will garner favourable critical responses. As a long term strategy this has obvious and massive flaws.

So rather than tax write offs being great more realistically it needed extra money to finish it off (perhaps including reshoots?) and, if it was released, would have tarnished the brand still further.

[Evercross]

Blackpuddin said:

BBC Radio Wales said it was canned because of terrible feedback from pre-launch showings.

I stick by the 'combination of factors' reason. It probably was wishy-washy woke crap, but that hasn't stopped releases in the past and previously such an audience reaction would have been dismissed as prejudiced anyway.

The bigger picture is that the two tie-in movies are unreleasable now because of their toxic stars and took this movie down with them, but it was easier to announce this one first on the back of blaming audience reaction.

Having said that, the two toxic stars concerned were very much in the vanguard of the diverse woke agenda (both tried to milk it to the umpteenth degree) while really being self-serving low-life scum, so I guess it does all boil down to the woke brigade reaping what they sowed, being too keen to eulogise such figures and not scrutinise who they really were too closely (see also Kevin Spacey...)

In the long term I think the decision bodes well for Warner as they now have someone in charge willing to take these decisions and not pander to the woke brigade.

[JagLover]

Evercross said:

In the long term I think the decision bodes well for Warner as they now have someone in charge willing to take these decisions and not pander to the woke brigade.

Maybe they will just try and make good movies....., stranger things have happened. As a starting point these studios need to find someone who knows how to write.

[vladcjelli]

A Winner Is You said:

Am I just being wildly optimistic in thinking this and the success of Top Gun Maverick are signs that people are finally getting bored of superhero movies?

Hang on, while I accept he didn’t wear a cape, Top Gun Maverick was yet another “Tom Cruise is a super hero” movie. The plot (ha!) is as wildly implausible as any Marvel film, he just doesn’t have lasers shooting out of his eyes. Yet.

See also, Jack Reacher, Mission Impossible, Knight and Day etc.

It’s basically all he does.

[saaby93]

vladcjelli said:

A Winner Is You said:

Am I just being wildly optimistic in thinking this and the success of Top Gun Maverick are signs that people are finally getting bored of superhero movies?

Hang on, while I accept he didn’t wear a cape, Top Gun Maverick was yet another “Tom Cruise is a super hero” movie. The plot (ha!) is as wildly implausible as any Marvel film, he just doesn’t have lasers shooting out of his eyes. Yet.

See also, Jack Reacher, Mission Impossible, Knight and Day etc.

It’s basically all he does.

Hugh Grant the same - one act used in different films