EV versus ICE

[DodgyGeezer]

Found this little calculator giving a rough cost per journey between EV and normal cars. I don't know if it's accurate but I would assume that in using broad-strokes it gives an idea...

https://www.zap-map.com/tools/journey-cost-calcula...

[Gunk]

DodgyGeezer said:

Found this little calculator giving a rough cost per journey between EV and normal cars. I don't know if it's accurate but I would assume that in using broad-strokes it gives an idea...

https://www.zap-map.com/tools/journey-cost-calcula...

That’s depressed me, I’m spending a fortune on Diesel at the moment

[TheDrownedApe]

I have two cars. Id3 and 13 plate 1.6d fiesta. Firstly it told me my 202 mile journey couldn't be completed on one charge even though ive doneit multiple times. Also a 180 mile journey isn't possible. Finally entered 170 miles and it let me add other calcs then.

Fiesta did 67.9mpg on Thurs for this 202 mile journey yet it states 56.6mpg real world.

So there are a number of inaccuracies with its data but not so much that it doesn't give an idea of costs.

I've done various estimates and decided that 10k miles a year will roughly save you 2k in an EV.

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DodgyGeezer said:

Found this little calculator giving a rough cost per journey between EV and normal cars. I don't know if it's accurate but I would assume that in using broad-strokes it gives an idea...

https://www.zap-map.com/tools/journey-cost-calcula...

Doesn’t seem accurate. EV cost seems to be around 3x what I’m spending.

[Gunk]

page3 said:

DodgyGeezer said:

Found this little calculator giving a rough cost per journey between EV and normal cars. I don't know if it's accurate but I would assume that in using broad-strokes it gives an idea...

https://www.zap-map.com/tools/journey-cost-calcula...

Doesn’t seem accurate. EV cost seems to be around 3x what I’m spending.

It’s probably sponsored by the Green Party

[TheRainMaker]

We have a longish trip coming up, I have planned to use Ionity chargers, it works out cheaper to use the other half's Petrol Civic than the EV.

I'm going to keep that to myself

Ionity at 69p per kW
Petrol at 175p average UK price today

[TheRainMaker]

Charging at home is a different story.

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F20CN16 said:

page3 said:

Doesn’t seem accurate. EV cost seems to be around 3x what I’m spending.

Change the price of the kWh in the calculator then?

I couldn’t find that option. I’ll look again.

[plfrench]

TheRainMaker said:

We have a longish trip coming up, I have planned to use Ionity chargers, it works out cheaper to use the other half's Petrol Civic than the EV.

I'm going to keep that to myself

Ionity at 69p per kW
Petrol at 175p average UK price today

A £10 premium seems like a bargain to be driving a Polestar 2 over a Civic for 500 miles - sold

[James6112]

TheRainMaker said:

Charging at home is a different story.

Pointless without the kwh rate
You could say the Honda is cheaper as i’m filling it up from a jerry can filled at £1 a litre !
Mine is cheap @ 18p kwh until June 23
But most will be 2 or 3 times that..

Edited by James6112 on Sunday 14th August 17:00

[TheRainMaker]

James6112 said:

TheRainMaker said:

Charging at home is a different story.

Pointless without the kwh rate
You could say the Honda is cheaper as i’m filling it up from a jerry can filled at £1 a litre !
Mine is cheap @ 18p kwh until June 23
But most will be 2 or 3 times that..

Edited by James6112 on Sunday 14th August 17:00

I'm paying 28p per kW
Petrol was based on 175p which is the average in the UK today.

[ashenfie]

It's generally not very helpful guide as it does not take into account the cost of,

1) Purchasing the car a key factor.
2) Tax
3) Insurance
4) Servicing
5) Petrol/Electricity price fluctuations

[Maracus]

ashenfie said:

It's generally not very helpful guide as it does not take into account the cost of,

1) Purchasing the car a key factor.
2) Tax
3) Insurance
4) Servicing
5) Petrol/Electricity price fluctuations

I've just done it for a MINI Electric vs MINI Cooper S 2.0i Sport-Auto 3 door

1. Similar RRP for spec for spec - £31k vs £29k, lease is negligible
2. Electric is £0 tax, so cheaper
3. Insurance was 10% cheaper for us when we changed from a petrol Cooper S
4. MINI service plans are £10 for Electric vs £17.99 for Petrol per month.
5. At 28p/kW vs £1.80 litre, cost per 100 miles is £7.53 vs £25.

[McAndy]

ashenfie said:

It's generally not very helpful guide as it does not take into account the cost of,

1) Purchasing the car a key factor.
2) Tax
3) Insurance
4) Servicing
5) Petrol/Electricity price fluctuations

It doesn't claim to be anything other than a journey calculator, so the point is moot, I'm afraid.

Unfortunately, the back-end data is unreliable, so rubbish in; rubbish out!

From my own fuel calcs on electric (daytime rate at home, ~3.6 mi/kWh) vs petrol (not diesel, 30 mpg), electric is around £2.5k per year cheaper over 12,000 miles. Put in the overnight rate (as they are due to go up to in Q3/4) and that increases to a fuel saving of >£3k per year.

To put it another way: changing my owned ICE to a leased Ioniq 5 would cost me, post-sale of the ICE, £6/mo more to run the Ioniq. So that depreciation, tax, servicing: the works! On a salary sacrifice, it saves me over £100/mo and releases the capital from my owned-ICE asset. Useful for doing bathrooms/buffering savings ahead of a recession!