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Yes 
. Obv the guess-ometer is based on recent performance which can be really good in town - I can get 5+ m/kWh out of my I5 AWD which is much better than the manu figures, but on the motorway I managed 234 miles 100%->10% with 26 miles left, so 260m total, average of 56mph (traffic was slow in places, I wasn't babying it that much).
So one 20-30min stop at a fast charger will do the job.
. Obv the guess-ometer is based on recent performance which can be really good in town - I can get 5+ m/kWh out of my I5 AWD which is much better than the manu figures, but on the motorway I managed 234 miles 100%->10% with 26 miles left, so 260m total, average of 56mph (traffic was slow in places, I wasn't babying it that much).So one 20-30min stop at a fast charger will do the job.
I can get easily get 5 miles per kwh out of my I5 at this tine of year bimbling around town. As soon as the speedo climbs above 30mph though it’s down into the low 4’s.
Unless your journeys are all at speeds of 30mph or less I don’t think you’ll ever see more than 300 miles from a full charge.
Unless your journeys are all at speeds of 30mph or less I don’t think you’ll ever see more than 300 miles from a full charge.
Well it did quite well yesterday averaging 4.1 miles/kWh on the way down (down hill) and 3.9 on the way back (up hill).
There was a lot of heavy rain north of Birmingham and a lot of variable speed reductions south of Birmingham.
I stopped at the London Services on the M1 on the return and took on 22kWh at 48p per.
Interesting was that if my cruise control was set at the variable speed per the motorway displays, when I passed the next display with a different speed, say dropping from 60mph to 50mph, my car automatically responded with a drop in the cruise set speed.
Similarly increasing if it was a higher speed dictate.
Ominous communications with the infrastructure !!!!
What with that and the distance control, lane control and lane change assistance, it makes for very lazy driving.
There was a lot of heavy rain north of Birmingham and a lot of variable speed reductions south of Birmingham.
I stopped at the London Services on the M1 on the return and took on 22kWh at 48p per.
Interesting was that if my cruise control was set at the variable speed per the motorway displays, when I passed the next display with a different speed, say dropping from 60mph to 50mph, my car automatically responded with a drop in the cruise set speed.
Similarly increasing if it was a higher speed dictate.
Ominous communications with the infrastructure !!!!
What with that and the distance control, lane control and lane change assistance, it makes for very lazy driving.
You can generally get more range by driving a little slower, or indeed sitting behind a big lorry with your adaptive cruise doing all the work….a fun game from time to time!
In reality, doing that for a chunk of the drive will be faster than coming off and charging en route
We did that with my diesel XC60…got back from Dijon to Leicester on one tank. Off the Eurotunnel my range was 140 miles, with 180 to home. Some 50 mph roadworks meant I tucked behind a big wagon, & by the time we were at Dartford, it was neck & neck with the distance home. Carried on doing that, generally behind fast white vans, etc. Got home with 15miles left!
In reality, doing that for a chunk of the drive will be faster than coming off and charging en route
We did that with my diesel XC60…got back from Dijon to Leicester on one tank. Off the Eurotunnel my range was 140 miles, with 180 to home. Some 50 mph roadworks meant I tucked behind a big wagon, & by the time we were at Dartford, it was neck & neck with the distance home. Carried on doing that, generally behind fast white vans, etc. Got home with 15miles left!
so called said:
Well it did quite well yesterday averaging 4.1 miles/kWh on the way down (down hill) and 3.9 on the way back (up hill).
There was a lot of heavy rain north of Birmingham and a lot of variable speed reductions south of Birmingham.
I stopped at the London Services on the M1 on the return and took on 22kWh at 48p per.
Interesting was that if my cruise control was set at the variable speed per the motorway displays, when I passed the next display with a different speed, say dropping from 60mph to 50mph, my car automatically responded with a drop in the cruise set speed.
Similarly increasing if it was a higher speed dictate.
Ominous communications with the infrastructure !!!!
What with that and the distance control, lane control and lane change assistance, it makes for very lazy driving.
Your car wasn't communicating with the infrastructure. It was merely using the camera to recognise traffic signs en route and adjust the cruise control speed accordingly. Quite a few cars do that. There was a lot of heavy rain north of Birmingham and a lot of variable speed reductions south of Birmingham.
I stopped at the London Services on the M1 on the return and took on 22kWh at 48p per.
Interesting was that if my cruise control was set at the variable speed per the motorway displays, when I passed the next display with a different speed, say dropping from 60mph to 50mph, my car automatically responded with a drop in the cruise set speed.
Similarly increasing if it was a higher speed dictate.
Ominous communications with the infrastructure !!!!
What with that and the distance control, lane control and lane change assistance, it makes for very lazy driving.
mikeiow said:
You can generally get more range by driving a little slower, or indeed sitting behind a big lorry with your adaptive cruise doing all the work….a fun game from time to time!
In reality, doing that for a chunk of the drive will be faster than coming off and charging en route
We did that with my diesel XC60…got back from Dijon to Leicester on one tank. Off the Eurotunnel my range was 140 miles, with 180 to home. Some 50 mph roadworks meant I tucked behind a big wagon, & by the time we were at Dartford, it was neck & neck with the distance home. Carried on doing that, generally behind fast white vans, etc. Got home with 15miles left!
Sitting behind a truck being sucked alone might save a few pennies, but will shorten your life by quite a few years.In reality, doing that for a chunk of the drive will be faster than coming off and charging en route
We did that with my diesel XC60…got back from Dijon to Leicester on one tank. Off the Eurotunnel my range was 140 miles, with 180 to home. Some 50 mph roadworks meant I tucked behind a big wagon, & by the time we were at Dartford, it was neck & neck with the distance home. Carried on doing that, generally behind fast white vans, etc. Got home with 15miles left!
raspy said:
Your car wasn't communicating with the infrastructure. It was merely using the camera to recognise traffic signs en route and adjust the cruise control speed accordingly. Quite a few cars do that.
I've had previous cars recognise the speed restriction change and inform me but not change the actual speed.But, yes, I'm sure your point is correct.
What I noticed was that if my cruise control was at 62 in a 60 zone for example, the setting stayed at 62mph when going into a different speed zone.
mikeiow said:
You can generally get more range by driving a little slower, or indeed sitting behind a big lorry with your adaptive cruise doing all the work….a fun game from time to time!
In reality, doing that for a chunk of the drive will be faster than coming off and charging en route
We did that with my diesel XC60…got back from Dijon to Leicester on one tank. Off the Eurotunnel my range was 140 miles, with 180 to home. Some 50 mph roadworks meant I tucked behind a big wagon, & by the time we were at Dartford, it was neck & neck with the distance home. Carried on doing that, generally behind fast white vans, etc. Got home with 15miles left!
I've done this in the past, watched the estimated range creep up to, and pass, the miles remaining on my sat nav. Man alive it was a dull journey though!In reality, doing that for a chunk of the drive will be faster than coming off and charging en route
We did that with my diesel XC60…got back from Dijon to Leicester on one tank. Off the Eurotunnel my range was 140 miles, with 180 to home. Some 50 mph roadworks meant I tucked behind a big wagon, & by the time we were at Dartford, it was neck & neck with the distance home. Carried on doing that, generally behind fast white vans, etc. Got home with 15miles left!
so called said:
Well it did quite well yesterday averaging 4.1 miles/kWh on the way down (down hill) and 3.9 on the way back (up hill).
There was a lot of heavy rain north of Birmingham and a lot of variable speed reductions south of Birmingham.
I stopped at the London Services on the M1 on the return and took on 22kWh at 48p per.
Interesting was that if my cruise control was set at the variable speed per the motorway displays, when I passed the next display with a different speed, say dropping from 60mph to 50mph, my car automatically responded with a drop in the cruise set speed.
Similarly increasing if it was a higher speed dictate.
Ominous communications with the infrastructure !!!!
What with that and the distance control, lane control and lane change assistance, it makes for very lazy driving.
So how many miles did it do? Was the range estimate of 341 remotely close to real life?There was a lot of heavy rain north of Birmingham and a lot of variable speed reductions south of Birmingham.
I stopped at the London Services on the M1 on the return and took on 22kWh at 48p per.
Interesting was that if my cruise control was set at the variable speed per the motorway displays, when I passed the next display with a different speed, say dropping from 60mph to 50mph, my car automatically responded with a drop in the cruise set speed.
Similarly increasing if it was a higher speed dictate.
Ominous communications with the infrastructure !!!!
What with that and the distance control, lane control and lane change assistance, it makes for very lazy driving.
300bhp/ton said:
so called said:
Well it did quite well yesterday averaging 4.1 miles/kWh on the way down (down hill) and 3.9 on the way back (up hill).
There was a lot of heavy rain north of Birmingham and a lot of variable speed reductions south of Birmingham.
I stopped at the London Services on the M1 on the return and took on 22kWh at 48p per.
Interesting was that if my cruise control was set at the variable speed per the motorway displays, when I passed the next display with a different speed, say dropping from 60mph to 50mph, my car automatically responded with a drop in the cruise set speed.
Similarly increasing if it was a higher speed dictate.
Ominous communications with the infrastructure !!!!
What with that and the distance control, lane control and lane change assistance, it makes for very lazy driving.
So how many miles did it do? Was the range estimate of 341 remotely close to real life?There was a lot of heavy rain north of Birmingham and a lot of variable speed reductions south of Birmingham.
I stopped at the London Services on the M1 on the return and took on 22kWh at 48p per.
Interesting was that if my cruise control was set at the variable speed per the motorway displays, when I passed the next display with a different speed, say dropping from 60mph to 50mph, my car automatically responded with a drop in the cruise set speed.
Similarly increasing if it was a higher speed dictate.
Ominous communications with the infrastructure !!!!
What with that and the distance control, lane control and lane change assistance, it makes for very lazy driving.
I did 344 miles.
Based on the displayed of 4 miles/kWh I added 88 miles at the Service Station charger and when I got home I had a remaining 42 miles range.
So 344 done + 42 remaining - 88 additional charge = 298 miles achieved from the original 100% charge against the displayed 341 mile range.
So the range estimate wasn't achieved.
But, the estimate was based on my previous usage and the actual day included motorway speeds and heavy rain etc.
In actual fact, the car hit the manufacturers max range on the nose. (based on my dodgy maths).
ashenfie said:
mikeiow said:
You can generally get more range by driving a little slower, or indeed sitting behind a big lorry with your adaptive cruise doing all the work ….a fun game from time to time!
In reality, doing that for a chunk of the drive will be faster than coming off and charging en route
We did that with my diesel XC60…got back from Dijon to Leicester on one tank. Off the Eurotunnel my range was 140 miles, with 180 to home. Some 50 mph roadworks meant I tucked behind a big wagon, & by the time we were at Dartford, it was neck & neck with the distance home. Carried on doing that, generally behind fast white vans, etc. Got home with 15miles left!
Sitting behind a truck being sucked alone might save a few pennies, but will shorten your life by quite a few years.In reality, doing that for a chunk of the drive will be faster than coming off and charging en route
We did that with my diesel XC60…got back from Dijon to Leicester on one tank. Off the Eurotunnel my range was 140 miles, with 180 to home. Some 50 mph roadworks meant I tucked behind a big wagon, & by the time we were at Dartford, it was neck & neck with the distance home. Carried on doing that, generally behind fast white vans, etc. Got home with 15miles left!
Not sure how familiar you are with adaptive cruise control, but it is amazing for this kind of thing, & generally will extend your life through less stress by a few years!!
blueacid said:
I've done this in the past, watched the estimated range creep up to, and pass, the miles remaining on my sat nav. Man alive it was a dull journey though!
Yup, can't argue with that....but it can achieve an objective, eh!I've just got back from a 350-mile trip in the Polestar with the roof box fitted, 34.8 kWh/100 miles average (2.87 miles per kWh)
Gave me a real range of 210 miles (WLTP between 282-301 miles)
Didn't hyper mile at all and drove normally with an average speed of 55 mph.
Left with 100% and returned with 40% spent £40.21 on charging at Gridserve, and £14.00 at home to top up back to 100%
The total cost of electricity to cover 350 miles was £52.21 which is around 55mpg in a petrol car.
Probably around 50 mins charging time in total (could have been shorter however no one was waiting, there were six spare chargers and the little one was having fun in the soft play)
Gave me a real range of 210 miles (WLTP between 282-301 miles)
Didn't hyper mile at all and drove normally with an average speed of 55 mph.
Left with 100% and returned with 40% spent £40.21 on charging at Gridserve, and £14.00 at home to top up back to 100%
The total cost of electricity to cover 350 miles was £52.21 which is around 55mpg in a petrol car.
Probably around 50 mins charging time in total (could have been shorter however no one was waiting, there were six spare chargers and the little one was having fun in the soft play)
TheRainMaker said:
I've just got back from a 350-mile trip in the Polestar with the roof box fitted, 34.8 kWh/100 miles average (2.87 miles per kWh)
Gave me a real range of 210 miles (WLTP between 282-301 miles)
Didn't hyper mile at all and drove normally with an average speed of 55 mph.
Left with 100% and returned with 40% spent £40.21 on charging at Gridserve, and £14.00 at home to top up back to 100%
The total cost of electricity to cover 350 miles was £52.21 which is around 55mpg in a petrol car.
Probably around 50 mins charging time in total (could have been shorter however no one was waiting, there were six spare chargers and the little one was having fun in the soft play)
Welcome to the world of < 3miles/kWh EV motoring. Gave me a real range of 210 miles (WLTP between 282-301 miles)
Didn't hyper mile at all and drove normally with an average speed of 55 mph.
Left with 100% and returned with 40% spent £40.21 on charging at Gridserve, and £14.00 at home to top up back to 100%
The total cost of electricity to cover 350 miles was £52.21 which is around 55mpg in a petrol car.
Probably around 50 mins charging time in total (could have been shorter however no one was waiting, there were six spare chargers and the little one was having fun in the soft play)
Be interesting to see the journey cost come October with electricity going up and petrol/diesel coming down.
so called said:
I've had previous cars recognise the speed restriction change and inform me but not change the actual speed.
But, yes, I'm sure your point is correct.
What I noticed was that if my cruise control was at 62 in a 60 zone for example, the setting stayed at 62mph when going into a different speed zone.
Yes it only tracks the speed limits if the cruise is initially set to exactly the limit.But, yes, I'm sure your point is correct.
What I noticed was that if my cruise control was at 62 in a 60 zone for example, the setting stayed at 62mph when going into a different speed zone.
TheRainMaker said:
I've just got back from a 350-mile trip in the Polestar with the roof box fitted, 34.8 kWh/100 miles average (2.87 miles per kWh)
Gave me a real range of 210 miles (WLTP between 282-301 miles)
Didn't hyper mile at all and drove normally with an average speed of 55 mph.
Left with 100% and returned with 40% spent £40.21 on charging at Gridserve, and £14.00 at home to top up back to 100%
The total cost of electricity to cover 350 miles was £52.21 which is around 55mpg in a petrol car.
Probably around 50 mins charging time in total (could have been shorter however no one was waiting, there were six spare chargers and the little one was having fun in the soft play)
For those who are interested, I did a very similar trip today, not quite as far but mainly motorway driving but without the roof box.Gave me a real range of 210 miles (WLTP between 282-301 miles)
Didn't hyper mile at all and drove normally with an average speed of 55 mph.
Left with 100% and returned with 40% spent £40.21 on charging at Gridserve, and £14.00 at home to top up back to 100%
The total cost of electricity to cover 350 miles was £52.21 which is around 55mpg in a petrol car.
Probably around 50 mins charging time in total (could have been shorter however no one was waiting, there were six spare chargers and the little one was having fun in the soft play)
123.9 miles with a 30.4 kWh/100 mile average (3.28 miles per kWh)
Gave me a real-world range of 246 miles (WLTP between 282-301 miles).
Average speed of 56 mph.
Left with 88% and got home with 38% around £11.00 spent on charging at home, which would be around 90 mpg in a petrol car.
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