The Cabriolet I want…

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swanseaboydan

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1,732 posts

164 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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It seems that the polestar and Tesla roadster are very powerful and very expensive. Can someone please build the following:
A 2 seater roadster with a battery or hybrid power train that does about 250 - 300 horsepower.
No crazy handling needed. No huge launch control / power etc needed.
It’s just for cruising around in summer ( sitting in traffic . .) so needs a decent stereo and a boot for shopping.
Am I completely out of touch ?
Surely a nice electric / hybrid open top car can be built and sold at a profit for under £60k?
Wouldn’t it be a massive hit ?
Why are there none available ?
I just don’t get it ?

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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Surely part of the appeal would also be a nice engine note.

Why the hybrid/electric insistence?

sxmwht

1,566 posts

60 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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swanseaboydan said:
It seems that the polestar and Tesla roadster are very powerful and very expensive. Can someone please build the following:
A 2 seater roadster with a battery or hybrid power train that does about 250 - 300 horsepower.
No crazy handling needed. No huge launch control / power etc needed.
It’s just for cruising around in summer ( sitting in traffic . .) so needs a decent stereo and a boot for shopping.
Am I completely out of touch ?
Surely a nice electric / hybrid open top car can be built and sold at a profit for under £60k?
Wouldn’t it be a massive hit ?
Why are there none available ?
I just don’t get it ?
I've been surprised at the lack of smaller electric cars, Model 3 size. Everyone is trying to make SUVs and get the range up. Just make the car more aerodynamic ffs

ajap1979

8,014 posts

188 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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swanseaboydan said:
It’s just for cruising around in summer ( sitting in traffic . .) so needs a decent stereo and a boot for shopping.
Fiat 500e C...

ajap1979

8,014 posts

188 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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MuddyK said:
Surely part of the appeal would also be a nice engine note.
Or no engine note at all... it's possible that that would appeal to some...

RazerSauber

2,287 posts

61 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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apart from being a 4 seater, what about this?

Link

If you're adamant on 2 seaters, you're probably best waiting for the MX-5 NE (probably) which will presumably be hybrid/electric.

Silvanus

5,259 posts

24 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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MuddyK said:
Surely part of the appeal would also be a nice engine note.

Why the hybrid/electric insistence?
got a few non petrol head freinds that own convertibles MX-5, Figaro, Eos and C70. None could give the slightest toss about engine noise other than possibly having less. The SL AMG owner does like noise though.

Panamax

4,070 posts

35 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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So far as I can make the issue so far has been the weight of the battery would cause any cabrio to bend about all over the place.

microgod

43 posts

163 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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MG Cyberster ?

SuperPav

1,093 posts

126 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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MG Cyberster will tick all of that (at least from expectations)

Next gen Boxster entry model probably not far off the mark either.

Do Mini not do a EV cab yet? Is it only the Fiat in that segment?

Hol

8,419 posts

201 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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I remember these guys trying with an early Elise.

https://www.zytek.co.uk/case-study/automotive/ev/l...

swanseaboydan

Original Poster:

1,732 posts

164 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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All good points.
I think that, for me at least, a cabriolet either has an amazing v8 sound or none at all. So, if we are being driven away from big engines cars, the manufacturers would be Missing an open goal by providing a small 2 seater - I reckon a boxter elec would sell out straight away .

Silvanus

5,259 posts

24 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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microgod said:
MG Cyberster ?
If you look past the recent concept (and Chinese human rights), it will look something similar to this. Will look great in a bold colour

swanseaboydan

Original Poster:

1,732 posts

164 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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With the MG - the problem is that it is going to be a £100k plus car

kambites

67,593 posts

222 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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swanseaboydan said:
With the MG - the problem is that it is going to be a £100k plus car
Where do you get that idea from? I thought the expectation was around £30k.

Dog Star

16,145 posts

169 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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ajap1979 said:
MuddyK said:
Surely part of the appeal would also be a nice engine note.
Or no engine note at all... it's possible that that would appeal to some...
This. People on PH seem to think that an engine that makes a noise is in some way desirable - the rest of the world really don’t want to hear it. It’s like playing loud music in you’d garden

Silvanus

5,259 posts

24 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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kambites said:
swanseaboydan said:
With the MG - the problem is that it is going to be a £100k plus car
Where do you get that idea from? I thought the expectation was around £30k.
the EV hatch it shares a platform and drivetrain with starts at £25k, can't see it being anywhere near £100k. Wouldn't be surprised if they sold it with a very low profit margin to promote the brand. MG are selling loads of cars, over 4 times as many as Honda

Filibuster

3,165 posts

216 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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RazerSauber said:
apart from being a 4 seater, what about this?

Link

If you're adamant on 2 seaters, you're probably best waiting for the MX-5 NE (probably) which will presumably be hybrid/electric.
I had no idea this existed! Seems odd that you don't get it on the continent....

OP, this is the very car you described in you post, sure with two additional backseats, but imho this suits a cabriolet very well.

Either way, my understanding is:
2 seater, sporty open top car = Roadster
4 seater cruiser open top car = Cabriolet

Silvanus

5,259 posts

24 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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Filibuster said:
RazerSauber said:
apart from being a 4 seater, what about this?

Link

If you're adamant on 2 seaters, you're probably best waiting for the MX-5 NE (probably) which will presumably be hybrid/electric.
I had no idea this existed! Seems odd that you don't get it on the continent....

OP, this is the very car you described in you post, sure with two additional backseats, but imho this suits a cabriolet very well.

Either way, my understanding is:
2 seater, sporty open top car = Roadster
4 seater cruiser open top car = Cabriolet
aren't they only mild hybrids?

Bobupndown

1,820 posts

44 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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Silvanus said:
microgod said:
MG Cyberster ?
If you look past the recent concept (and Chinese human rights), it will look something similar to this. Will look great in a bold colour
Looks like they haven't bothered too much with the design element, MGF with new headlights and bonnet springs to mind.