Using a driveway to turn around, bad?
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I once had to turn around on someone's drive. There was a bin lorry blocking one direction and it was a narrow street which meant I had to put 2 wheels on someone's drive to turn around.
The homeowner came out and was incredibly angry, screaming at me through the window and saying 'he'll f****** do me in'.
It amazed me that someone could get so angry at something so trivial. I wouldn't care if someone did this on my drive, as long as no damage is caused and they don't park on it.
Am I wrong?
The homeowner came out and was incredibly angry, screaming at me through the window and saying 'he'll f****** do me in'.
It amazed me that someone could get so angry at something so trivial. I wouldn't care if someone did this on my drive, as long as no damage is caused and they don't park on it.
Am I wrong?
Whilst I have no problem with people using my drive to turn around, I can see in some circumstances why people might. Obviously if you're a careful competent driver it doesn't do any harm, but I know someone who had their gate-post knocked down by someone using their drive to turn around and they are now, understandably really, not particularly enthusiastic about people doing it!
The worst I have ever done, and it’s not unusual, is to partly reverse into someone’s driveway, to turn around. Hopefully, that way minimises the disruption to everyone in the vicinity. I have never had anyone scream at me. And yes, going through a sweep-in, sweep-out driveway would be going a bit too far.
I once went down a rural narrow lane in a 18Ton lorry, to be faced with a 7.5T limit sign for a bridge ahead.
Had no option but to turn around in someone's driveway. He was a WFH with business signage outside his house with a mobile phone number advertised.
He wasn't home, but I rang him to ask permission. Luckily he said that's fine, just don't hit the house!
Had no option but to turn around in someone's driveway. He was a WFH with business signage outside his house with a mobile phone number advertised.
He wasn't home, but I rang him to ask permission. Luckily he said that's fine, just don't hit the house!
The problem is that you are not the only person doing it.
I used to live in a residential cul-de-sac which was diagonally opposite a 'no right turn' junction.
People would turn left at that junction, then pull into my road, use my driveway to turn around, then exit the road so they could turn left, effectively making the right turn they wanted to do, albeit in a convoluted manner.
If this happened on the odd occasion I wouldn't have minded, but it became 10-15 times a day, so I would regularly be out there telling people to f*** off my property.
On the last occasion I had to do it the bloke was drinking a can of Stella at the wheel. Make of that what you will as to the mentality of some of these people.
I used to live in a residential cul-de-sac which was diagonally opposite a 'no right turn' junction.
People would turn left at that junction, then pull into my road, use my driveway to turn around, then exit the road so they could turn left, effectively making the right turn they wanted to do, albeit in a convoluted manner.
If this happened on the odd occasion I wouldn't have minded, but it became 10-15 times a day, so I would regularly be out there telling people to f*** off my property.
On the last occasion I had to do it the bloke was drinking a can of Stella at the wheel. Make of that what you will as to the mentality of some of these people.
I drove supermarket delivery vans during lockdown and was very conscious of using driveways even if customers said it was fine. The weight of the truck, drains , pulling gravel into the road etc. if you stop on a drain you could cause it to cave a bit.
We had our driveway done with new tarmac and went away for a week a few months later. It was a very hot week and where the driveway was still relatively new it was susceptible to damage. The golden rule with new tarmac is not to dry steer as power steering almost digs a hole in it.
I came home to this, I was absolutely fuming as I live on a close with a large turning circle, so whoever it was was just being lazy.
It looks like someone did a three point turn aggressively, dry steering. It doesn’t show it well in the photo but it loosened the tarmac so they had to come back out and put some extra bits down and reform it.
So yeah overall it’s someone else’s property , the most I would ever use is a bumpers worth if there’s no other option and I’d be very careful of the surface given my own grievance.
We had our driveway done with new tarmac and went away for a week a few months later. It was a very hot week and where the driveway was still relatively new it was susceptible to damage. The golden rule with new tarmac is not to dry steer as power steering almost digs a hole in it.
I came home to this, I was absolutely fuming as I live on a close with a large turning circle, so whoever it was was just being lazy.
It looks like someone did a three point turn aggressively, dry steering. It doesn’t show it well in the photo but it loosened the tarmac so they had to come back out and put some extra bits down and reform it.
So yeah overall it’s someone else’s property , the most I would ever use is a bumpers worth if there’s no other option and I’d be very careful of the surface given my own grievance.
LordGrover said:
I pass this driveway twice a day: click.
I wonder how many times someone has used his driveway to turn, in order for them to feel the need to add a sign?
Looks a silly place to be reverse into to turn around with the brow of the hill obstructing vision- perhaps there has been an accident/near miss caused by someone turning around there and your man is trying to prevent a recurrence?I wonder how many times someone has used his driveway to turn, in order for them to feel the need to add a sign?
Previous said:
No.
Sweeping round someone's in and out driveway would be unreasonable.
Making a three point turn and using a couple of feet of open drive for three seconds, shouldn't be an issue - especially if its obvious that the road is blocked / narrow.
I have no problem with people using the first few feet, but in my in laws old house they often got people driving right up to the front door of their house if the cul de sac they lived in was busy.Sweeping round someone's in and out driveway would be unreasonable.
Making a three point turn and using a couple of feet of open drive for three seconds, shouldn't be an issue - especially if its obvious that the road is blocked / narrow.
That’ was a good 20-30 feet up the driveway.
Edited by Hol on Tuesday 23 August 11:33
Drive past this place quite regularly, it's not the most obvious place for people to decide to turn around, but obviously enough people do to warrant the owner putting up various signs.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.8766963,-1.97655...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.8766732,-1.97657...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.8766714,-1.97653...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.8767057,-1.97657...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.8766699,-1.97657...
The issue is, the sort of person who drives over lawns/flowerbeds or demolishes walls is also the sort of person who will ignore signs anyway.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.8766963,-1.97655...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.8766732,-1.97657...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.8766714,-1.97653...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.8767057,-1.97657...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.8766699,-1.97657...
The issue is, the sort of person who drives over lawns/flowerbeds or demolishes walls is also the sort of person who will ignore signs anyway.
LordGrover said:
I pass this driveway twice a day: click.
I wonder how many times someone has used his driveway to turn, in order for them to feel the need to add a sign?
I cycle past a house like this pretty often. The house is on a quiet lane with probably 1 car an hour at most. the drive way is gated and they have a sign on the garden wall saying "No turning". How sad must you be to not want people using the road outside your house for a 3 point turn.I wonder how many times someone has used his driveway to turn, in order for them to feel the need to add a sign?
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.8120532,-3.12743...
joropug said:
I came home to this, I was absolutely fuming as I live on a close with a large turning circle, so whoever it was was just being lazy.
Wait... Your road has a turning circle that hasn't just been claimed as parking by the houses on the turning circle?!?!There's two cul de sacs near me where weirdos get all upset with you if you turn around in the turning circle they've filled with cars, and any time a large van or lorry makes a delivery they end up reversing out.
donkmeister said:
Wait... Your road has a turning circle that hasn't just been claimed as parking by the houses on the turning circle?!?!
There's two cul de sacs near me where weirdos get all upset with you if you turn around in the turning circle they've filled with cars, and any time a large van or lorry makes a delivery they end up reversing out.
Can only have a few cars parked there and there are day restrictions keeping it clear luckily, you could turn a 7.5t at any time of the day there and even if you couldn’t it’s a bigger 3 point turn space than my driveway. There's two cul de sacs near me where weirdos get all upset with you if you turn around in the turning circle they've filled with cars, and any time a large van or lorry makes a delivery they end up reversing out.
I’m less precious now but it was immaculate when new so was really gutted. Tree surgeons van dripped oil all over it the other day too which looks s
t now I’ve cleared it up - it’ll even out eventually but that was with my permission, would be even more annoyed if it wasn’t ! On the cul-de-sac point, is it okay to use the end of someone’s drive to turn around if their cars are blocking turning suitably in the cul-de-sac? I used to get this and as a result would end up shining my lights through their front windows which always made me feel bad until I reversed into the half they weren’t blocking to turn around.
Zetec-S said:
Drive past this place quite regularly, it's not the most obvious place for people to decide to turn around, but obviously enough people do to warrant the owner putting up various signs.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.8767057,-1.97657...
If you spin the camera, it looks like traffic has the potential to build up there? Otherwise like you say I can't see why you'd use there to turn around.https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.8767057,-1.97657...
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