Cornwall Aviation Museum forced to close
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We were there 3 weeks ago and it was awesome. Even middle daughter was fascinated and it's like pulling teeth getting her engaged in STEM. Interesting because she's been to cosford, even woodford in the Vulcan but the staff at Newquay were so good and she was really engaged.
How this hasn't been recognised as an education resource i don't know, and when the big boy is evicted it'll be lost forever - and with only 12 to start with presumably that's a rare thing
kers!We were there 3 weeks ago and it was awesome. Even middle daughter was fascinated and it's like pulling teeth getting her engaged in STEM. Interesting because she's been to cosford, even woodford in the Vulcan but the staff at Newquay were so good and she was really engaged.
How this hasn't been recognised as an education resource i don't know, and when the big boy is evicted it'll be lost forever - and with only 12 to start with presumably that's a rare thing
Cornwall council have a reputation for crap decisions, they spent £80k on a bus lane that everyone knew wasnt going to work but in there ignorance they carried on with signs, coloured tarmac and markings. It only lasted a few days before the U turn. Maybe they will see sense and reverse the decision?
Some Gump said:
wkers!
We were there 3 weeks ago and it was awesome. Even middle daughter was fascinated and it's like pulling teeth getting her engaged in STEM. Interesting because she's been to cosford, even woodford in the Vulcan but the staff at Newquay were so good and she was really engaged.
How this hasn't been recognised as an education resource i don't know, and when the big boy is evicted it'll be lost forever - and with only 12 to start with presumably that's a rare thing
One of those museums we've not 'got around to'.kers!We were there 3 weeks ago and it was awesome. Even middle daughter was fascinated and it's like pulling teeth getting her engaged in STEM. Interesting because she's been to cosford, even woodford in the Vulcan but the staff at Newquay were so good and she was really engaged.
How this hasn't been recognised as an education resource i don't know, and when the big boy is evicted it'll be lost forever - and with only 12 to start with presumably that's a rare thing
Did see the V-bomber at Midlands Air Museum, AKA Coventry few years back, a great museum IMHO.
Notwithstanding the fact that I live in Yorkshire, I'm a huge fan of Cornwall, have been many times and keep well abreast of happenings there via various channels and contacts. These antics are pretty much par for the course with Cornwall Council. Don't get me started on the one way system at Lelant - brainchild of some cockwomble who doesn't actually drive! Their stupidity knows no bounds.
aeropilot said:
And the Nimrod at Coventry, as they had plans to move the 'live' Nimrod that is there to Newquay/St.Mawgan given the long association with the Nimrod and RAF St.Mawgan, and the fact that Coventry is going to be built on.
Although so far nothing has actually happened at coventry with regards to the gigafactory. I'm convinced we will lose a fantastic facility for the sake of another fking amazon warehouse and more new build houses for egostical s.MrBig said:
aeropilot said:
And the Nimrod at Coventry, as they had plans to move the 'live' Nimrod that is there to Newquay/St.Mawgan given the long association with the Nimrod and RAF St.Mawgan, and the fact that Coventry is going to be built on.
Although so far nothing has actually happened at coventry with regards to the gigafactory. I'm convinced we will lose a fantastic facility for the sake of another fking amazon warehouse and more new build houses for egostical s.There is also a need for housing in Cornwall, especially affordable housing for people who actually live there, not for second homes etc.
So in that context if the only place in Cornwall where they can build affordable housing is there, then I can accept that. But of course that's almost certainly not the case.
CCC's attitude can only be because they have a more profitable possibility. But whatever that is, I cant understand why they can't find a small piece of land within the airport environs where the collection can be. It's a confusing one, which probably means there's more to it than meets the eye, and it could be caused by either side.
At this point, it's a bit hysterical to talk about scrapping the airframes, I'm quite sure other museums and collections will take most of them on.
It's a shame to the tourist industry, and another blow to aviation in Britain.
So in that context if the only place in Cornwall where they can build affordable housing is there, then I can accept that. But of course that's almost certainly not the case.
CCC's attitude can only be because they have a more profitable possibility. But whatever that is, I cant understand why they can't find a small piece of land within the airport environs where the collection can be. It's a confusing one, which probably means there's more to it than meets the eye, and it could be caused by either side.
At this point, it's a bit hysterical to talk about scrapping the airframes, I'm quite sure other museums and collections will take most of them on.
It's a shame to the tourist industry, and another blow to aviation in Britain.
Jake899 said:
At this point, it's a bit hysterical to talk about scrapping the airframes, I'm quite sure other museums and collections will take most of them on.
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It's not hysterical, its realistic. Who will take them on? Even if the want was there, who could afford it? Most museums were skint before COVID, and the cost of moving some of the large airframes is a total non starter..
The only museum on an acquisition spree is SWAM, and that's because it's owned by the bloke behind GJD services who make a living from dismantling, cutting up and moving aircraft so they have a "house advantage"
Jake899 said:
There is also a need for housing in Cornwall, especially affordable housing for people who actually live there, not for second homes etc.
So in that context if the only place in Cornwall where they can build affordable housing is there
The airport isn't closing, so they don't want the site for housing, affordable or otherwise.So in that context if the only place in Cornwall where they can build affordable housing is there
Eric Mc said:
I presume it's to do with expanding the actual activities of the airport, which would include its new use as a space launch centre. Hopefully, they can locate to another part of the site - as happened to the Bournemouth Aviation Museum.
The 'Cornwall Space Launch Centre' sound like the sort of thing the councillors of Stoneybridge would dream up!
Somewhere in this lot https://democracy.cornwall.gov.uk/ieDocHome.aspx there should be some minutes about this decision .
Incidentally I wonder whether anyone has checked their lease terms to ensure it can just be terminated
Incidentally I wonder whether anyone has checked their lease terms to ensure it can just be terminated
H_4_ESC said:
From BBC Cornwall web page:
A spokesperson for Cornwall Council said: "Cornwall Council and Cornwall Airport Newquay are not responsible for the operation of a private business and securing a site on which to operate is the responsibility of the management of the centre.
"Cornwall Council has made it clear to CAHC that we will consider assisting them to move to a new location when a credible, costed and deliverable proposal has been developed. However, this remains the responsibility of the centre."
It seems that is what the Council see it as, not a heritage or educational asset, but a Private Business.
I was going to say that, they can't be that thick surely....?A spokesperson for Cornwall Council said: "Cornwall Council and Cornwall Airport Newquay are not responsible for the operation of a private business and securing a site on which to operate is the responsibility of the management of the centre.
"Cornwall Council has made it clear to CAHC that we will consider assisting them to move to a new location when a credible, costed and deliverable proposal has been developed. However, this remains the responsibility of the centre."
It seems that is what the Council see it as, not a heritage or educational asset, but a Private Business.
But this is a council we're talking about.... sharpest tool in the tool box, they usually are not.
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