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Throwing myself onto the mercy of those far better informed than me!
Looking at going electric, owing to the eye watering fuel bills we're currently being hit with. Circa 90 mile commute daily (I know!
), M-way & fast-ish A road. Driveway at home, round trip commute nicely within comfortable EV single charge range, so pretty much ideal EV fodder I guess. OH is very keen on going down the hybrid route, I'm of the (unqualified) view that we'd be far better with a full EV.
So, after some informed opinion! Am I right in saying that the benefits of hybrid (of either type) are better suited to local/average use, with a very limited battery range for local pottering and then a battery/ICE combi being required for any sort of distance, whereas our 90 miles a day would make far more sense with a full EV charging at home overnight?
Or am I talking carp?!
Looking at going electric, owing to the eye watering fuel bills we're currently being hit with. Circa 90 mile commute daily (I know!
), M-way & fast-ish A road. Driveway at home, round trip commute nicely within comfortable EV single charge range, so pretty much ideal EV fodder I guess. OH is very keen on going down the hybrid route, I'm of the (unqualified) view that we'd be far better with a full EV.So, after some informed opinion! Am I right in saying that the benefits of hybrid (of either type) are better suited to local/average use, with a very limited battery range for local pottering and then a battery/ICE combi being required for any sort of distance, whereas our 90 miles a day would make far more sense with a full EV charging at home overnight?
Or am I talking carp?!
Regular 90 miles/day in a PHEV would mean half to two thirds of the trip being done on petrol while lugging a a battery and motor you're not using around. With most modern BEV's you'd only need to charge every other day.
Surely you're ideal case for a BEV unless you plan to regularly do much longer journey?
I'm considering a PHEV as our journeys tend to under 20 miles or over a few hundred.
Surely you're ideal case for a BEV unless you plan to regularly do much longer journey?
I'm considering a PHEV as our journeys tend to under 20 miles or over a few hundred.
Keep in mind you need to make sure you can get a 7KW charger without too much hassle at home and then move on to Octopus Go or similar overnight tarrif.
But you do sound like you're ideal BEV candidate.
As mentioned, hybrids don't have the range for you and the extra weight with no charge makes them less efficient.
But you do sound like you're ideal BEV candidate.
As mentioned, hybrids don't have the range for you and the extra weight with no charge makes them less efficient.
90 miles a day is def full EV territory. That’s two and a bit times what my wife does in her EV. I work from home and mostly do local trips so my phev often goes a couple of weeks between using petrol. For long trips with local running for a couple of weeks either side the phev still averages around 40 mpg but regular 90 milers would be pretty poor
I would suggest you want to get something with 150-200 miles summer range though as winter running will use a lot more. Also if your 90 miles is all motorway at 70 you will need something with well over 100 miles “normal” range in the summer probably and more again in the winter. So no Honda e or mini electric
I would suggest you want to get something with 150-200 miles summer range though as winter running will use a lot more. Also if your 90 miles is all motorway at 70 you will need something with well over 100 miles “normal” range in the summer probably and more again in the winter. So no Honda e or mini electric
oop north said:
90 miles a day is def full EV territory. That’s two and a bit times what my wife does in her EV. I work from home and mostly do local trips so my phev often goes a couple of weeks between using petrol. For long trips with local running for a couple of weeks either side the phev still averages around 40 mpg but regular 90 milers would be pretty poor
I would suggest you want to get something with 150-200 miles summer range though as winter running will use a lot more. Also if your 90 miles is all motorway at 70 you will need something with well over 100 miles “normal” range in the summer probably and more again in the winter. So no Honda e or mini electric
Agreed, will aim to be as cautious as possible range-wise! It'll likely be used and small family size, so some care will be needed (as well as some luck, quite possibly!); been looking at 5ish year old Leafs (Leaves?!), but will obviously need some pretty stiff research!I would suggest you want to get something with 150-200 miles summer range though as winter running will use a lot more. Also if your 90 miles is all motorway at 70 you will need something with well over 100 miles “normal” range in the summer probably and more again in the winter. So no Honda e or mini electric
Evanivitch said:
90 miles you'd get away with a 40kWh Leaf okay.
What's the space requirements? You could also look at 38kWh Hyundai Ioniq, they're very efficient on electricity.
Closes to a PHEV would be an i3 REX, but you really want to 38kWh model as a minimum.
As in space in the car? OH would love a stonking great SUV, reality is a tad more modest. Two kids, 8 & 11, will be in the back at weekends. Possibility of running an old barge of some sort for that purpose, EV will be primarily to get the commuting cost down!What's the space requirements? You could also look at 38kWh Hyundai Ioniq, they're very efficient on electricity.
Closes to a PHEV would be an i3 REX, but you really want to 38kWh model as a minimum.
Really appreciate all the advice folks, mucho thanks!
Southerner said:
As in space in the car? OH would love a stonking great SUV, reality is a tad more modest. Two kids, 8 & 11, will be in the back at weekends. Possibility of running an old barge of some sort for that purpose, EV will be primarily to get the commuting cost down!
Really appreciate all the advice folks, mucho thanks!
Do your maths properly. Many entry level EVs on leases have eye watering pence per mile costs just because of the lease price, ie before you even charge it up. 75p to a pound a mile not uncommon. Really appreciate all the advice folks, mucho thanks!
If your looking at running a family ‘barge’ too, make sure the answer isn’t just buying a blue motion polo or golf for 5k or so, then running it on 15p per mile diesel or so, and avoiding the high lease costs per mile.
poo at Paul's said:
Southerner said:
As in space in the car? OH would love a stonking great SUV, reality is a tad more modest. Two kids, 8 & 11, will be in the back at weekends. Possibility of running an old barge of some sort for that purpose, EV will be primarily to get the commuting cost down!
Really appreciate all the advice folks, mucho thanks!
Do your maths properly. Many entry level EVs on leases have eye watering pence per mile costs just because of the lease price, ie before you even charge it up. 75p to a pound a mile not uncommon. Really appreciate all the advice folks, mucho thanks!
If your looking at running a family ‘barge’ too, make sure the answer isn’t just buying a blue motion polo or golf for 5k or so, then running it on 15p per mile diesel or so, and avoiding the high lease costs per mile.
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