Ford 1.0 Ecoboost vs Hyundai/Kia 1.0 TGDI

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Folks,

Which one would you prefer and why, regardless of cars they are put in, I just wanted to get your feedback on reliability, performance and robustness of both turbo engines.

One of my techie friend holds the opinon that Suzuki make the most reliable and fuel efficient 1.0 turbo engines(boosterjet)...Never experienced one so cannot comment. But I have found ecoboost to be quite fuel efficient and zippy.

Cheers!!

[biggbn]

Kia/Hyundai. They put a massive warranty behind their products for a reason.

[VS02]

Ford EcoBoost is probably the better engine but Hyundai/Kia puts it to shame reliability wise… and warranty wise.. the EcoBoost engines in the Focus and Fiesta especially in higher tunes have a history of lunching themselves, or at least in the last generation models.

[Bluemondy]

Our Little 1.0T gdi engine is impressive. Not quick of course, and you have to be prepared to get revvy if you want it to move, but it seems to be solid.

No significant issues with the Hyundai 1.0T that i'm aware of.

[ZX10R NIN]

Both engines are good the warranty on the Kia makes it appealing but it all depends on how much you want to spend, there were a few issues with the Kia/Hyundai unit when it was first introduced but they're pretty much sorted, same (although the issue was bigger on the Ford) with the Ford.

[SlowV6]

Slightly off topic I know, but as it was mentioned by the OP in the first post, how does the Suzuki 1.0T boosterjet stack up against these two?

[MrGTI6]

If you're looking to get something with a 1.0 Ecoboost and keep it long term, please be aware of the timing belt situation! Ford originally claimed the belt never needed to be changed, but as early examples are getting older, it's become increasingly apparent that they are prone to letting go after about a decade. Ford has recently introduced an interval of 10 years or 150,000 miles on new cars with this engine.

Replacing the timing belt on the 1.0 Ecoboost is very labour-intensive and requires specialist tools. Expect to fork out upwards of £1,000, the majority of that being labour costs.

[Trevor555]

MrGTI6 said:

If you're looking to get something with a 1.0 Ecoboost and keep it long term, please be aware of the timing belt situation! Ford originally claimed the belt never needed to be changed, but as early examples are getting older, it's become increasingly apparent that they are prone to letting go after about a decade. Ford has recently introduced an interval of 10 years or 150,000 miles on new cars with this engine.

Replacing the timing belt on the 1.0 Ecoboost is very labour-intensive and requires specialist tools. Expect to fork out upwards of £1,000, the majority of that being labour costs.

Crikey..

Is it an engine out job?

[finlo]

Trevor555 said:

MrGTI6 said:

If you're looking to get something with a 1.0 Ecoboost and keep it long term, please be aware of the timing belt situation! Ford originally claimed the belt never needed to be changed, but as early examples are getting older, it's become increasingly apparent that they are prone to letting go after about a decade. Ford has recently introduced an interval of 10 years or 150,000 miles on new cars with this engine.

Replacing the timing belt on the 1.0 Ecoboost is very labour-intensive and requires specialist tools. Expect to fork out upwards of £1,000, the majority of that being labour costs.

Crikey..

Is it an engine out job?

Most likely if it's a "wet" belt like some other Ford engines, stupid idea!

[Bluemondy]

The Hyundai (one assumes kia as well) has a timing chain. Very early model's suffered a rattle and premature wearing, but I believe that has been resolved.

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SlowV6 said:

Slightly off topic I know, but as it was mentioned by the OP in the first post, how does the Suzuki 1.0T boosterjet stack up against these two?

My friend is a mech-engineer and car enthusitic, he keep changing cars & do expertiments. He kept few swifts and a baleno, While he hate interrior build quality of suzukis, he really appreciate their boosterjet and K series NA engines. He belives that Suzuki engiens can take lot of abuse and 1.0 & 1.4 Boosterjets are one of most reliable and fuel efficient turbo engines out there

May be some memebers with first hand experience can share better feedback

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MrGTI6 said:

If you're looking to get something with a 1.0 Ecoboost and keep it long term, please be aware of the timing belt situation! Ford originally claimed the belt never needed to be changed, but as early examples are getting older, it's become increasingly apparent that they are prone to letting go after about a decade. Ford has recently introduced an interval of 10 years or 150,000 miles on new cars with this engine.

Replacing the timing belt on the 1.0 Ecoboost is very labour-intensive and requires specialist tools. Expect to fork out upwards of £1,000, the majority of that being labour costs.

Wow! That's like a punch in the gut... I thought with all this technology advancements, modern engines should be more robust and moduler (easy to fix).