the £ cost of a car, is the gap between purchase and selling
the £ cost of a car, is the gap between purchase and selling
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jason61c

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5,978 posts

202 months

Friday 2nd September 2022
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the true cost of a car is the the gap from buying to selling.

it seems you'll loose less money over 3 years on a Lamborghini huracan rwd than a high spec focus, where does the limit stop? I've bought a few things that have dropped nothing in 'value'. including servicing.

what's the wider option? how far can yous stretch the maths?


samoht

7,162 posts

174 months

Friday 2nd September 2022
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The true cost of a car, is
the gap between buying and selling
+ the interest paid or lost on the final value
+ the total cost of maintenance/warranties

as well as incidentals like fuel, road tax etc.


At an extreme example, the cheapest ever car to run was Rowan Atkinson's McLaren F1, which cost him negative eleven million dollars, less maintenance, averaging at a net profit of about half a million per year of ownership.

Harry Metcalfe's Zonda also sold for about double the purchase cost, again outweighing the maintenance costs along the way.


At a less exotic level, I'm about to sell my RX-7, the appreciation in the decade I've had it is a lot in percentage terms (450% or so), but that probably covers about half my maintenance costs wink So the cost of maintenance can easily wipe out a paper 'profit', especially on the older cars that are most likely to rise in value, but on the other hand it's always better to offset the expensive running costs than not.

ninjag

1,878 posts

147 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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Not forgetting the often overlooked inflation. Typically over the long term, but sometimes over the short term.

edc

9,580 posts

279 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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You're overthinking it. The cost of a car is just the purchase cost. If you ever had a car or are just buying more cars then there is no selling. The affordability might be the difference in price.

Caddyshack

14,570 posts

234 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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jason61c said:
the true cost of a car is the the gap from buying to selling.

it seems you'll loose less money over 3 years on a Lamborghini huracan rwd than a high spec focus, where does the limit stop? I've bought a few things that have dropped nothing in 'value'. including servicing.

what's the wider option? how far can yous stretch the maths?
You might lose less % of the purchase price on a Lambo but I bet you lose more actual £ money. High spec focus might lose £20k, I bet the Lambo loses £20k the minute it turns the wheel (unless it’s one of those cars in low supply getting overs at first?)

Venisonpie

4,723 posts

110 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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Correct, TCO - total cost of ownership.

Purchase cost plus running costs (inc finance if applicable) less disposal value.

You might also include lost investment opportunity on capital employed.

Alex Z

2,036 posts

104 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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edc said:
You're overthinking it. The cost of a car is just the purchase cost. If you ever had a car or are just buying more cars then there is no selling. The affordability might be the difference in price.
On the contrary, the cost of ownership is all the expenditure minus the retained value at the end.
Affordability is how accessible it is to get into that vehicle.

A desirable Porsche that barely depreciates or gains value has a low cost of ownership, but wouldn’t be affordable for most people to get a deposit or pass a credit check.

Monkeylegend

28,963 posts

259 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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Only for a small percentage.

The rest just pay for the use of it for a couple of years or so.

Doofus

34,114 posts

201 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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The gross cost of a car is everything you've spent to acquire and run it.

The net cost of a car is the gross cost minus whetever you get when you sell it.

Anything else is what PH calls 'man maths'.

edc

9,580 posts

279 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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Alex Z said:
edc said:
You're overthinking it. The cost of a car is just the purchase cost. If you ever had a car or are just buying more cars then there is no selling. The affordability might be the difference in price.
On the contrary, the cost of ownership is all the expenditure minus the retained value at the end.
Affordability is how accessible it is to get into that vehicle.

A desirable Porsche that barely depreciates or gains value has a low cost of ownership, but wouldn’t be affordable for most people to get a deposit or pass a credit check.
Cost of ownership and purchase cost are different things. The title was just the cost of a car, which itself might be open to interpretation.

ZX10R NIN

30,424 posts

153 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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jason61c said:
the true cost of a car is the the gap from buying to selling.

it seems you'll loose less money over 3 years on a Lamborghini huracan rwd than a high spec focus, where does the limit stop? I've bought a few things that have dropped nothing in 'value'. including servicing.

what's the wider option? how far can yous stretch the maths?
It all depends at what stage you buy the Focus, also if you buy the Huracan & put Focus levels of mileage on it watch the depreciation then along with the service costs fuel etc.

Trevor555

5,365 posts

112 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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jason61c said:
The true cost of a car is the the gap from buying to selling.
When I've bought a car for myself I calculate what it's cost me to own, and then divide into a weekly figure. Depreciation + servicing costs.

So when you've done 12k in one year (about the time til I get an urge for something else) I work out it's cost me £230 per week.

That helps ease the pain a little, what could you hire for £230 a week? Not much.

I've had a few that cost me nothing per week, namely VW van, Porsche's 987, 981, Macan GTS, quite a few low mileage Z3's

So yes, the true cost of a car is all down to what you sell it for when the time comes, many are free.