Cessna Citation 551 crashes into the Baltic Sea
Cessna Citation 551 crashes into the Baltic Sea
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QuickQuack

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2,634 posts

124 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Weird crash which brings to mind Helios Airways Flight 522. It's also on BBC but there are fewer details on there.

https://aviationsourcenews.com/news/cessna-citatio...

HocusPocus

1,861 posts

124 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Sadly this incident appears to have marked similarities to the cabin depressurisation incident which killed golfer Payne Stewart and 3 associates in 2000.

aeropilot

39,690 posts

250 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Pilot was an elderly millionaire entrepreneur who was the owner of the aircraft (through one of his companies). He used the aircraft to shuttle his family between his retirement home in Spain and Cologne (where he hailed from and is companies are based).
Other PAX were his wife, and his daughter and her fiancee.

DaveyBoyWonder

3,540 posts

197 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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I don't know much about these things but is it not weird that Spanish air control lost contact with the plane but then allowed it to fly without any kind of further attempt to contact right over central Spain, through France until the Germans sent up a plane to try and figure out what was wrong? Or do they just think "ah well, nothing we can do about it" (is there???) and leave it to its own devices?

Simpo Two

91,246 posts

288 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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Could autopilots be modified so that, in the event of depressurisation, it would automatically descend to (say) 10,000 feet? Might give people on board time to recover.

Trevatanus

11,349 posts

173 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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Simpo Two said:
Could autopilots be modified so that, in the event of depressurisation, it would automatically descend to (say) 10,000 feet? Might give people on board time to recover.
I guess the risk there would be, you could have an aircraft descending into (potentially) busy skies without control or clearance.

Simpo Two

91,246 posts

288 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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Trevatanus said:
Simpo Two said:
Could autopilots be modified so that, in the event of depressurisation, it would automatically descend to (say) 10,000 feet? Might give people on board time to recover.
I guess the risk there would be, you could have an aircraft descending into (potentially) busy skies without control or clearance.
Yes, it would have to activate some kind of radio mayday code so everyone knew what was happening.

surveyor

18,596 posts

207 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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The automatic system is coming through...

https://simpleflying.com/airbus-a220-emergency-des...

Simpo Two

91,246 posts

288 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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Hooray, I should have been an inventor!

Next, we need to scrap the wholesale energy market....

(waits for it to happen)