It’s official, European air shows are Zzzzzzz…
It’s official, European air shows are Zzzzzzz…
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Tony1963

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5,808 posts

185 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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From Brisbane two days ago






tangerine_sedge

6,176 posts

241 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Tony1963 said:
From Brisbane two days ago





Brisbane doesn't look any better - no pictures smile

(try removing the album password protection or share them in a different way smile )

Tony1963

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5,808 posts

185 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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tangerine_sedge said:
Brisbane doesn't look any better - no pictures smile

(try removing the album password protection or share them in a different way smile )
Oh. No problems on other forums or with other pics I’ve shared. I’ll take a look.

MesoForm

9,712 posts

298 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Tony1963 said:
tangerine_sedge said:
Brisbane doesn't look any better - no pictures smile

(try removing the album password protection or share them in a different way smile )
Oh. No problems on other forums or with other pics I’ve shared. I’ll take a look.
Pictures are working fine for me.
edit - but if I click on the photo it brings up a password protected message on the photobucket site.

Heartworm

1,938 posts

184 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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I can see them, very cool photos

Tony1963

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Monday 5th September 2022
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Photos also visible on another forum I use, I've just checked. Someone may have a browser issue?

normalbloke

8,471 posts

242 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Agreed. Used to be a regular at RIAT. Post Shoreham it was excruciatingly’flat’. Haven’t been since sadly.

Tony1963

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185 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Sweet

Chocolate

Monkeys

https://youtu.be/6c5kCuc8ctc

aeropilot

39,690 posts

250 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Those Brisbane shows were much better back in the day when the RAAF used to fly the Pig and do their dump n burn passes down the river..... at night biggrin

Simpo Two

91,246 posts

288 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Tony1963 said:
Sweet

Chocolate

Monkeys

https://youtu.be/6c5kCuc8ctc
Prefer this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ba2wWgc8cU&ab...

tangerine_sedge

6,176 posts

241 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Tony1963 said:
tangerine_sedge said:
Brisbane doesn't look any better - no pictures smile

(try removing the album password protection or share them in a different way smile )
Oh. No problems on other forums or with other pics I’ve shared. I’ll take a look.
Mea Culpa - my ad blocker was getting in the way banghead

Tony1963

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Monday 5th September 2022
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tangerine_sedge said:
Mea Culpa - my ad blocker was getting in the way banghead
Cheers. Now we all know.

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

69 months

Tuesday 6th September 2022
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It is a massive shame, we do seem to massively over react, our at least insurance companies do, which then is passed on to event organisers.

I wonder why we are so reactionary in this country, in comparison to others to the point where things like this would be scoffed at in the media, some sports are now so restricted, it makes a mockery of humanity in some ways.

I am sure some of you have seen footage of the Swiss demo in the mountains where they even do live ammo runs on mountain side targets, it is so spectacular, fabulous for photos and literally one of the coolest things I have seen airshows wise, and this is bloody Switzerland!!! So I am sure with some thought it could be possible to do something here. But people who run these modern airshows are just happy to ask silly money for woefullly poor shows at airfields that miss the point completely to simply make a profit and do the same again next year, it is just very average, poor, not a show at all.

I was lucky enough to be going to airshows when a level of over crowd flying was possible, low passes were right across the crowd line, F111's burning fuel, it was fabulous. I have not been to an airshow for about 15 years.

The only thing that even got close was Brunters cold war jet days, they were truly fabulous. And sadly that has been dumped in favour of a car park. A joke sadly

zsdom

1,713 posts

143 months

Tuesday 6th September 2022
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River fire in Brisbane isnt an airshow

Axalp isnt an airshow

Comparing the two to an airshow is pretty stupid, River fire is an aircraft following the path of a river, Chinooks do that daily down the Thames

Axalp is a live fire demo with an assembled crowd nowhere near the targets, we do that in the UK very regularly

I can see why its a shame “we’re so reactionary” to Andy Hill slamming a Hunter into 11 people or the Galloping Ghost at Reno, the Ukranian chap who smashed his Su-27 into the Sknyliv crowd or the Frecce Tricolori slamming into the Ramstein punters, why oh why do we over react to prevent these happening again & stop people dying so much


Tony1963

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Tuesday 6th September 2022
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zsdom said:
River fire in Brisbane isnt an airshow

Axalp isnt an airshow

Comparing the two to an airshow is pretty stupid, River fire is an aircraft following the path of a river, Chinooks do that daily down the Thames

Axalp is a live fire demo with an assembled crowd nowhere near the targets, we do that in the UK very regularly

I can see why its a shame “we’re so reactionary” to Andy Hill slamming a Hunter into 11 people or the Galloping Ghost at Reno, the Ukranian chap who smashed his Su-27 into the Sknyliv crowd or the Frecce Tricolori slamming into the Ramstein punters, why oh why do we over react to prevent these happening again & stop people dying so much
Do you think that current air shows in the U.K. are exciting or boring?

zsdom

1,713 posts

143 months

Tuesday 6th September 2022
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Tony1963 said:
Do you think that current air shows in the U.K. are exciting or boring?
UK airshows are very exciting & amongst the best & safest in the world. I spend hundreds if not thousands attending them & overseas shows, I photograph them, write & review them & even participate in a podcast talking about them and still get a buzz from attending them every year

Edited by zsdom on Tuesday 6th September 14:09

Simpo Two

91,246 posts

288 months

Tuesday 6th September 2022
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zsdom said:
I can see why its a shame “we’re so reactionary” to Andy Hill slamming a Hunter into 11 people or the Galloping Ghost at Reno, the Ukranian chap who smashed his Su-27 into the Sknyliv crowd or the Frecce Tricolori slamming into the Ramstein punters, why oh why do we over react to prevent these happening again & stop people dying so much
Let me see... number of people killed at airshows vs number of people killed by all other means per year... hmm. Want to stop people dying so much? There are more fruitful grounds to search in.

aeropilot

39,690 posts

250 months

Tuesday 6th September 2022
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Today is the 70th anniversary of the DH110 crash into the crowd at Farnborough.

There were no other crowd fatalities at a UK airshow (inside or outside) between that date and Shoreham in 2015, even through all the so called 'bad years' of the 60's and 70's etc.

theplayingmantis

5,608 posts

105 months

Tuesday 6th September 2022
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At least those aussie ones dont have to suffer the seemingly endless tedium of the silver swallows or Royal Jordanian Falcons that RIAT suffered from this year...

if i want to see crappy little planes loop the loop i can do down to a local airfield. Complete waste of time and no one bothers to watch them.

Tony1963

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Tuesday 6th September 2022
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zsdom said:
UK airshows are very exciting & amongst the best & safest in the world. I spend hundreds if not thousands attending them & overseas shows, I photograph them, write & review them & even participate in a podcast talking about them and still get a buzz from attending them every year

Edited by zsdom on Tuesday 6th September 14:09
Can I just ask how many air shows you went to, in the U.K. in the 70s and 80s?