Mitsi E vo's for track use
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Just wondered if anyone on here has any track experience in any of the Mitsi evo's,I'm wondering if they make good track day cars before I go spending the money on my 993tt, pss9,extra oil cooler,brake cooling duct's,track corsa's these are the bit's I felt could do with upgrading after I done a hard day at Bedford 1/5/05 Just Thought the Mitsi mike make a cheaper track car and I could keep the 993tt as a mint/road car? All views welcome thanks.
I tried this route - me and a mate bought an impreza STI - spent a load on it to make it into a track weapon. Outcome was this; took the subaru and 993TT to bedford and did about three laps in the Subaru before realising it doesn't offer any, er, driving dynamics. Left it to my mate to drive.
It did go sideways very well though, but ultimately no cheaper to track than the dick.
It did go sideways very well though, but ultimately no cheaper to track than the dick.
wini said:
How many people on this site could catch a 993tt if they got into a fairly large side on slide?
quite a few I'd expect, there are some serious wheelmen on this forum
Surely a 993tt would be a hell of a lot more forgiving anyway due to the 4wd? (compared to trackday toys like Elises, etc.) ?
Anyway I'd agree with the rest of the posters - if you want a trackday toy that's cheap to run compared to the Porsche, then you'll need to look at lightweight things or tuned, stripped out hatches etc.
Alternatively, get a 968CS or do something stripped out and similar with a 944!
I used to do loads of track days in a 200 bhp Zetec-engined Caterham. Although not the lightest lump ever found in a 7 I did 6 years of track days with no significant problems. Tyres at £60/corner would last 5-6 track days, brakes pads the whole year (at £60 all round) and brake discs two years (at £60 all round as well). The car was v quick and capable of faster laps than most of the 911's I encountered. Present company excepted of course! 
There are some great bargains around with road-registered ex Vauxhall racers being potentially quite bullet proof. The K series engines are a bit more delicate, particularly in higher states of tune. In grin per £ on the track it's hard to beat a 7.
There are some great bargains around with road-registered ex Vauxhall racers being potentially quite bullet proof. The K series engines are a bit more delicate, particularly in higher states of tune. In grin per £ on the track it's hard to beat a 7.
.........back on topic then......
I've been tracking evo's since 1998, and have probably been at about 35 trackdays where there have been upward on 40 evos at each....
to clarify I am NOT an evo owner now - I run a 996tt
some facts :
I've NEVER EVER seen and evo go bang !
They are heavy on tyres 'cos they grip so well
they do need to be serviced regularly (4.5k) but are not expensive to service.
they are a phenomenal car - do not underestimate one or you'll end-up red-faced!!
>> Edited by dunnred7 on Saturday 13th August 15:57
I've been tracking evo's since 1998, and have probably been at about 35 trackdays where there have been upward on 40 evos at each....
to clarify I am NOT an evo owner now - I run a 996tt
some facts :
I've NEVER EVER seen and evo go bang !
They are heavy on tyres 'cos they grip so well
they do need to be serviced regularly (4.5k) but are not expensive to service.
they are a phenomenal car - do not underestimate one or you'll end-up red-faced!!
>> Edited by dunnred7 on Saturday 13th August 15:57
My 2p's worth.
I was at Donington recently on a PCGB day. There was a Mits Evo FQ400 XYZ (the one with the shark fins on the roof) in attendance. The guy had just bought it (well over 40k) and was a mobile chicane for most of the day. Towards the end of the day it went bang in a very terminal kind of way. The owner was very upset as I recall.
Jonathan
I was at Donington recently on a PCGB day. There was a Mits Evo FQ400 XYZ (the one with the shark fins on the roof) in attendance. The guy had just bought it (well over 40k) and was a mobile chicane for most of the day. Towards the end of the day it went bang in a very terminal kind of way. The owner was very upset as I recall.
Jonathan
TBH, and based on my experience of the two cars the 996 would just eat-up the evo in a straight line,although in the corners they'd be about the same.
winner therefore would be the tt because it'd put probably another 20mph on the long straight bits ! Remember though that one is a £90k car and one is a £30k car !!
jcosh : sorry to hear about the mobile chicance - comes down to the driver really - yeah and some of the later FQ evos are souped-up in this country by "specialists" on behalf of Mitsu., and to be frank there is some concern amongst those in the know about how reliable they are :
I was talking standard out-the-box cars with about 305bhp - always found them absolutely reliable
winner therefore would be the tt because it'd put probably another 20mph on the long straight bits ! Remember though that one is a £90k car and one is a £30k car !!
jcosh : sorry to hear about the mobile chicance - comes down to the driver really - yeah and some of the later FQ evos are souped-up in this country by "specialists" on behalf of Mitsu., and to be frank there is some concern amongst those in the know about how reliable they are :
I was talking standard out-the-box cars with about 305bhp - always found them absolutely reliable
I did upwards of 50 track days in a pretty standard EVO6 (decat + induction kit + turbo tweek - c. 330bhp) Engine wise it was aboslutely bomb proof!
Tore up tyres and brakes very quickly though. Change of disks at least every 10 track days!
Is it quicker than a TT 996? of course not but you would need to be a very good driver indeed to put significant distance between yourself and an EVO 6/7/8 over a lap of even the longest circuits in the UK.
Tore up tyres and brakes very quickly though. Change of disks at least every 10 track days!
Is it quicker than a TT 996? of course not but you would need to be a very good driver indeed to put significant distance between yourself and an EVO 6/7/8 over a lap of even the longest circuits in the UK.
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