RE: Ford Thunderbird | Spotted
RE: Ford Thunderbird | Spotted
Saturday 24th September 2022

Ford Thunderbird | Spotted

What can challenge a Ford Mustang for classic cache? How about a stunning Mk2 Thunderbird...


I won’t lie, I was looking for an early Mustang as the Sunday spotted. Mainly because the new one’s been announced, so it seemed apt, and because: why not? The original will always be the best. But as I was searching through the classifieds, this appeared out of the ether. And having been in Canada last week and spied a Ford Thunderbird prowling around the streets of Vancouver, I felt compelled. I mean, come on, how amazing is this? Not just because it’s a Thunderbird, but also because of its condition.

Admittedly, this isn’t quite the same as the one I saw in Vancouver. That was an original Mk1 model with its less pronounced fins and the awkward spare tyre mounted Continental-style behind the boot. This is a Mk2, which arrived in ’57. It has sharper fins and a longer boot, which could accommodate the spare tyre within but still provide enough luggage space. It also has the restyled rear bumper, with ports for the exhausts at the edges (always something to admire about this era of yanks). It’s still curvy and sporting those iconic, roundel rear lights, mind, and the hooded, single headlamps up front. After this era, the Thunderbird started to gain sharper lines, which weren’t necessarily unappealing if we’re talking about the arrow-like ’61 Mk3, but, as with Mustangs, the Thunderbird did slide inexorably into obesity during the ‘70s. Even worse was the humdrum awfulness of the ‘80s.

You could argue that gaining a few pounds didn’t hurt the Thunderbird as much as the Corvette or Mustang, though. After all, the Thunderbird was never a sports car as such. Unlike the Corvette, which had appeared a couple of years earlier in ’53, and the Mustang, which arrived later in ’64, Ford marketed the Thunderbird as an 'upscale personal luxury car'. A two-seat convertible to go off gallivanting around the Hollywood hills with that special someone.

It was purely a second car, then, with no real practical purpose other than exploiting America’s post-war boom and love of excess. It was a beautiful piece of design, both outside and in, with a turned aluminium dash reminiscent of vintage Bentley’s, but here paired with mod cons like a push-button radio. That said, for the Mk2 the instruments were grouped together in a sportier single pod, with a round speedo instead of the Mk1’s larger, half-moon dial. Yet the bench front seat shouts cruiser rather than racer. 

Mind you, upfront the power was healthy. It was supplied by a 312cu in V8, which is 5.1-litres if you think in metric, serving up a lazy but considerable 245hp through a three-speed Ford-O-Matic auto. Or, in this case, a rare three-speed manual. Apparently, that’s all original, too, with the advert describing it as having matching numbers and even the original four-barrel Holley carburettor. The car also comes with its original spare tyre and jack, and a fantastic set of knock-off wires with white walls to finish them off perfectly.

In fact, it sounds like an example of a very sweet, unrestored car, having arrived on our shores from the best place for classics to dwell: dry, sunny, California. Maybe it really did spend its time in the Hollywood Hills, then? It’s clearly not had much use, showing just 26,000 miles, and thanks to the clement weather over there it’s described as being rust-free and never having felt a welding torch. The paint is also lustrous and the chrome shiny, with an interior to match. It’s clearly not a show car, though, having just seen off the 1,000-mile challenge of the Mille Miglia, so no seized calipers or a sticking throttle to spoil your fun, then. It’s just a shame that winter’s not far away, but if you’re quick there should be a few 2022 sunny days left before it needs mothballing for the winter. And then just pull up a chair and sit staring at it, because it’s one of those rare examples of a car that’s beautiful from every angle. Well, I think so, anyway.


Specification | Ford Thunderbird

Engine: 5,112cc, V8, naturally aspirated
Transmission: Three-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 245
Torque (lb ft): 324lb ft
CO2: Too many
MPG: Too few
Recorded mileage: 26,000
Year registered: 1957
Price new: $3,000 (give or take)
Yours for: £99,995

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stavr0ss

Original Poster:

270 posts

158 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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Look I hate to be this guy, but can you just put your heads together and decide amongst yourselves if, in this context, it ought to be cachet or cache please?
I read enough of these articles that it’s making me doubt my own mind.

dontlookdown

2,537 posts

123 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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It's cachet.

A cache is a collection of hidden stuff.

Not hard to get right.

Mysstree

547 posts

76 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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It’s a great piece of design how it tapers from front to back but inverted from the usual so the angle is at the bottom which counters the out of balance front stubbiness and the huge rear overhang.
To much red and a left hooker … if i had the cash and somewhere to keep it i would think about it.

Pflanzgarten

7,705 posts

55 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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Mysstree said:
To much red
Aye, resprayed in black it would look perfection. Quite what it’s used for on these shores is another thing, ‘cos it ain’t looking perfection unless it’s on a palm tree lined boulevard in 80 degree sunshine.

MCBrowncoat

1,781 posts

176 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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Mmm, I like this, actually I'd like to see more articles on weird spotted things in the classifieds outside of the usual norm (Porsche especially)

Aye, resprayed in black it would look perfection. Quite what it’s used for on these shores is another thing, ‘cos it ain’t looking perfection unless it’s on a palm tree lined boulevard in 80 degree sunshine.
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I like the early 60's Thunderbirds a bit more though. Especially that jet treatment of the rear end. I mean look at this! It looks like a frickin' spaceship, it's fantastic!



But yeah, I'd be driving it around Kent...not a lot of palm trees round here....

Mysstree

547 posts

76 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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MCBrowncoat said:
But yeah, I'd be driving it around Kent...not a lot of palm trees round here....
Sunday driving in Kent on the most poorly maintained b / country lanes in the country in a car as wide as the whole lane while avoiding tractors, MAMIL’s, hikers, hot hatch idiots and DFL’s …. Very relaxing biggrin
Probably okay around my way, cruising through Whitstable high street and there are a few DFL imported palms along Tankerton sea front.

swisstoni

24,162 posts

309 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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I’ve always had a soft spot for these.

But the look of this particular car is ruined imho by the absence of the rear wheel covers.

This is what it’s supposed to look like …


Edited by swisstoni on Sunday 25th September 10:53

Giulia Jon

407 posts

49 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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Mysstree said:
Too much red and a left hooker … if i had the cash and somewhere to keep it i would think about it.
Good luck finding a RHD American car , hardly any were ever made of any make and LHD is not the scary
proposition that everyone worries about ,takes about 2 minutes to get used to it .

I really like the early Thunderbird shape ,so cool .

DodgyGeezer

49,172 posts

220 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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That is lovely

wpa1975

14,795 posts

144 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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Wrong colour, red does not suit it.

samoht

7,303 posts

176 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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Mysstree said:
Sunday driving in Kent on the most poorly maintained b / country lanes in the country in a car as wide as the whole lane while avoiding tractors, MAMIL’s, hikers, hot hatch idiots and DFL’s …. Very relaxing biggrin
1955-57 Ford Thunderbird - 179cm wide
2018-current Ford Focus - 183cm wide

While it's true that American cars are wider than ours (it's more than 10cm wider than an E-Type), and the styling of the T-Bird exaggerates its width, going back 65 years worth of inflation means that this US classic is a very normal manageable width compared to today's cars.

Firebobby

1,008 posts

69 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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Luvverly, simply, simply luvverly.

Wolvesboy

597 posts

171 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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WOW! What a fabulous car - I have always been taken aback by these in there various early iterations.

I agree with Samoht - these cars give the impression of being much much bigger than they actually are. I have seen quite a few at local car meets and compared to say a latest Mustang, they are smaller than people think.

I have always hankered after one after watching the detective series "Vegas" where the main character always cruised down the strip in a red one past "The Golden Nugget" casino! Sad I know but absolutely true!

The spinner of plates

18,084 posts

230 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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It's nice. If you live in Cali.

But living in the UK I'd have to have a Harrys Garage worth of play things before I'd even consider jotting it onto the bottom of the 'maybe' list.

big_rob_sydney

3,671 posts

224 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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Considering it can only carry two people, that thing seems huge (length-wise). And the UK is not its best habitat. Considering the st weather and overcrowded and poorly-maintained roads, anyone paying £100k for one of these needs their head examined.

Escort3500

13,559 posts

175 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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swisstoni said:
I’ve always had a soft spot for these.

But the look of this particular car is ruined imho by the absence of the rear wheel covers.

This is what it’s supposed to look like …


Edited by swisstoni on Sunday 25th September 10:53
Agree. Awful wires don’t help the looks either.

Panamax

9,971 posts

64 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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The words "Ford Thunderbird" can mean so many things. That poor car went through more indignities than Mustang before it was finally killed. Mid-90s 2-door coupe and early 2000s final generation, to last of them being a real stinker.

Think Triumph TR6 vs Triumph Acclaim.

timberman

1,481 posts

245 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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Did anybody else see this and immediately think of Dan Tanner in Vegas

ggdrew

267 posts

154 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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swisstoni said:
I’ve always had a soft spot for these.

But the look of this particular car is ruined imho by the absence of the rear wheel covers.

This is what it’s supposed to look like …


Edited by swisstoni on Sunday 25th September 10:53
But much better still (IMO) is the original 1955 T'bird: the design has more integrity, as opposed to a facelift in response to '57 Chevy look.



Edited by ggdrew on Sunday 25th September 18:13

Unreal

10,947 posts

55 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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big_rob_sydney said:
Considering it can only carry two people, that thing seems huge (length-wise). And the UK is not its best habitat. Considering the st weather and overcrowded and poorly-maintained roads, anyone paying £100k for one of these needs their head examined.
Yes. Wonderful old thing but one of those cars I love to see but would never want to own.