Pension...which fund??
Pension...which fund??
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Double Fault

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1,458 posts

292 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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Hi All

After much wrangling and stress, a final salary lump sum will shortly be paid into my current employer's DC scheme. It's a very large sum of money, and I'm about 7 years away from retirement.

As it stands, it will be split 35/65 UK/World (ex-UK) passive equity funds.

Given the state of the world, is this really not a good idea?

There are a number to choose from....equities from every region imaginable, corporate bonds, lifestyle/pre-retirement, index-linked gilts and property.

Should I be looking to put the money somewhere else in the first instance? It can be moved easily enough at a later date.

Thank you

B9

534 posts

124 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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You've consulted with an IFA as the DB lump sum is substantial - out of curiosity what is their view?

You could park it in cash for a while, but if the pound crashes further then you lose out.

You could buy US weighted index funds (even global all caps are us weighted), and if the pound crashes further you're better off (but exposed to share price movement). If the pound recovers then you can be worse off.

You could buy bonds, gilts etc. Lower risk but still some exposure

You could spread investments across all three to try and keep things stable for now


Double Fault

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1,458 posts

292 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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Hi

The IFA guidance is over 6 months old but I have checked to see if he thinks it's still the right answer.

His current recommendation is:

50% World (ex-UK) Equity - Passive
12.5% European (ex-UK) Equity - Passive
12.5% North American Equity - Passive
12.5% Index-Linked Gilts
12.5% UK Corporate Bond - Passive

Double Fault

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Thursday 29th September 2022
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Plus...there's no cash option

drmotorsport

966 posts

272 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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Double Fault said:
Hi

The IFA guidance is over 6 months old but I have checked to see if he thinks it's still the right answer.

His current recommendation is:

50% World (ex-UK) Equity - Passive
12.5% European (ex-UK) Equity - Passive
12.5% North American Equity - Passive
12.5% Index-Linked Gilts
12.5% UK Corporate Bond - Passive
The IFA seems to have a dislike for UK equity then smile Odd as it's a market home to global companies and a decent source of dividend income for when you want to start taking an income without selling units.

Double Fault

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Thursday 29th September 2022
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drmotorsport said:
The IFA seems to have a dislike for UK equity then smile Odd as it's a market home to global companies and a decent source of dividend income for when you want to start taking an income without selling units.
I think it's because my pension fund, prior to this lump sum, already has over 200k in UK equities.

Either that or he's a staunch Remainer who thinks we're going down the toilet smile

VR99

1,392 posts

92 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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Double Fault said:
Hi

The IFA guidance is over 6 months old but I have checked to see if he thinks it's still the right answer.

His current recommendation is:

50% World (ex-UK) Equity - Passive
12.5% European (ex-UK) Equity - Passive
12.5% North American Equity - Passive
12.5% Index-Linked Gilts
12.5% UK Corporate Bond - Passive
Just a thought, is there really any need for the separate 12.5% European EX UK and 12.5% North American Equity allocations respectively when you could simply have 75% in the World (ex-UK) Equity fund? Nothing wrong with your IFAs portfolio, just thinking from a simplicity and ongoing maintenance perspective. However I am not an IFA and he/she may have a reason for those specific tilts.

Double Fault

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1,458 posts

292 months

Friday 30th September 2022
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Agree and will probably combine them.

Any thoughts on UK corporate bonds or index-linked gilts?

Derek Chevalier

4,659 posts

202 months

Sunday 2nd October 2022
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drmotorsport said:
Double Fault said:
Hi

The IFA guidance is over 6 months old but I have checked to see if he thinks it's still the right answer.

His current recommendation is:

50% World (ex-UK) Equity - Passive
12.5% European (ex-UK) Equity - Passive
12.5% North American Equity - Passive
12.5% Index-Linked Gilts
12.5% UK Corporate Bond - Passive
The IFA seems to have a dislike for UK equity then smile Odd as it's a market home to global companies and a decent source of dividend income for when you want to start taking an income without selling units.
The UK is around 4% of global market cap these days, not particularly significant. The drawbacks/limitations of relying on dividend income have been discussed here previously.

Derek Chevalier

4,659 posts

202 months

Sunday 2nd October 2022
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Double Fault said:
Agree and will probably combine them.

Any thoughts on UK corporate bonds or index-linked gilts?
It's probably worth pushing the IFA until you are satisfied with the answer.

Index-linked gilts have featured in the news recently

https://www.trustnet.com/news/13330704/the-funds-h...