RE: Crucial Maserati GranTurismo officially returns
RE: Crucial Maserati GranTurismo officially returns
Monday 3rd October 2022

Crucial Maserati GranTurismo officially returns

After intensive buildup, the GT is back with MC20 V6 power - or as a 760hp, 199mph EV...


Consider the Maserati rebirth well and truly underway. In typical Maserati fashion it’s already a bit topsy turvy - by all accounts the MC20 is superb and the Grecale is not - but to be honest, it’s just nice to see things going on. A new Maserati used to arrive with a new Pope, but not any longer. Now it’s time for perhaps the biggest debut yet: the new GranTurismo.  

Or to be specific, the big news is GranTurismo Folgore, the first all-electric Maserati and the car tasked with taking both the brand and the sector into uncharted territory. Ahead of Bentley, Rolls-Royce, Aston Martin or anybody else, it’s Maserati delivering a continent-crushing, battery-powered 2+2. We’ll get to the models powered by the MC20’s V6 in due course; it’s not every day that a brand like Maserati builds its first EV and claims it’ll do the best part of 200mph… 

Yes, really. Thanks to a trio of electric motors (two at the back, one up front) and an 83kWh battery, the GranTurismo Folgore can make 1,200hp… but it’s actually being sold with 761hp. Still, Maserati says that’s enough for 2.7 seconds to 62mph, 8.8 to 124mph and to hell with limiting the top speed for range - it’s said to be 320km/h, or 199mph. Not that Maserati has actually officially stated a range yet for the Folgore because, well, y’know, Maserati.  

Nevertheless, there remains plenty to be encouraged by. Burly 800V architecture means, when the range does run out, the GranTurismo can accept 270kW of charge. The entirely new platform packs the batteries in a T-bone shape, so the modules aren’t under seats, which means the Folgore can still claim 2+2 status and the H-point is kept low. Maserati reckons the Folgore sits lower than any other electric car on the market - which would be some achievement given how cars like Audi e-tron GT already skim the surface (and drive so very well). The trio of motors are driven by silicon carbide inverters derived from Formula E (woooo) and regen offers up to 0.65g of stopping as well as lots of lovely, recovered energy.  

Naturally, the electric powertrain can do plenty of clever chassis stuff for the Folgore, which is handy when you consider it weighs in at a chunky 2,260kg for Maserati’s ‘homologated weight’. The two rear motors operate independently for proper torque vectoring, and the all-wheel drive Folgore can be powered solely by the rear axle. In fact, for the drift mode that Maserati more politely call ‘Rear-Wheel Drive configuration’, the pair of motors are unleashed to their full 400hp potential (remember all three together could make 1,200). ‘GranTurismo Folgore can discharge 100% of the available power even with the rear axle alone in Rear-Wheel Drive configuration only, or can discharge up to 400 CV on a single rear wheel.’ Wowsers. 

But, of course, Maserati knows that an electric GranTurismo could make you into a drift superstar, but if it didn’t sound very good then there’d be no point. A Maserati that doesn’t sound nice is like a chocolate biscuit that doesn’t taste sweet - it’s the USP. And rather tricky with batteries. So Maserati has spliced together EV sounds with a bit of traditional V8, augmented through synthesisers and the speakers both inside and outside the car. We can sense your apprehension. But that’s what’s happened: ‘the natural acoustic dynamics of the electric motors driven by the inverters have been digitally shaped and integrated with the typical sound taken from the Maserati V8 tradition.’ The Folgore is nothing if not intriguing, then, as is the whole vehicle concept.  

Those who prefer a more traditional approach to the GranTurismo might prefer the Modena or Trofeo models, both powered by a wet-sumped version of the MC20’s 3.0-litre turbocharged ‘Nettuno’ V6, complete with the pre-chamber combustion technology. Maserati says the new modular architecture now underpinning the GT was always designed with both ICE and BEV powertrains in mind, right back to the beginning of the project in 2017, and therefore not much modification is needed from Folgore to Trofeo and Modena. A genuine clean-sheet, zero-compromise design, the new car is comprised of 65 per cent aluminium, with magnesium also playing a part and steel only for ‘the most critical functions’. 

The Modena gets 490hp, so we’ll focus on the Trofeo for the moment as that gets 550hp and is aimed at ‘enthusiasts for sports and adrenaline-fuelled performance’. With a standard ZF eight-speed auto shared with the Modena and a kerbweight usefully less than the Folgore at 1,795kg, the Trofeo should reach 62mph in 3.5 seconds, 124mph in 11.4 seconds and 199mph. It shares a lot of important bits with the EV, using the same double wishbone front end, multi-link rear axle and air springs. Significantly, every GranTurismo variant gets all-wheel drive. There’s no dedicated drift mode with the V6 (boo), though the ESC does go fully off. Drive modes are Comfort, GT, Sport and Corsa, with the Folgore driver choosing from Max Range, GT, Sport and Corsa. All of that is underpinned by Maseratis new, proprietary, Atlantis High electrical/electronic architecture. Controlled by Maserati’s Vehicle Domain Control Module with messages able to be sent in 2ms, the GT should offer ‘the best driving experience in all conditions.’ 

Just as it's important to sound the part, the new Maserati must look it. And having spent what feels like an age teasing it in various states of disguise - including none at all - here’s the full thing: the Folgore is the brown one, the Modena the red. And no, you’re not alone in thinking it’s a little familiar to what came before. But then what better car to mimic than the old GranTurismo? And an electric GT is already a pretty drastic move; can’t have customers alienated with a zany new look as well. Recognisable Maser details abound, now alongside influence from both Grecale (see the front lights) and MC20 (see the rear ones) 

Unfortunately, it seems Maserati has chosen not to show the GranTurismo’s interior, either in pictures or video. (Maybe it came up in the zoom press conference when we weren’t looking.) Whatever the case, it’s a shame not to be able to share what must be a crucial bit of the GT experience. But we have some promises until there are some proper pictures: ‘A clean and modern design, devoted to functionality and design cues’, is apparently what’s coming, with a new multi-function wheel as well. Perhaps more importantly, this new car is said to be a true four-seater. There are 310 litres of boot space in the combustion-engined cars, too, or 270 in the Folgore. Not loads, then, but something.  

The rest of the GranTurismo cabin is described as you might expect. Maserati's interiors haven’t always been up to scratch in recent years, so this one really needs to deliver. Think of the cars this will rival, from Bentley Continental GT to Porsche Taycan - fail to measure up in the cabin and you can start scratching off sales from day one. Let’s hope the combination of tradition and craftsmanship ‘juxtaposed with innovation and technology' is enough.  

Of course, if this vital new Maserati comes out with more MC20 energy than Grecale - and it’s got to, right? - then you're probably looking at the manufacturer's much needed success story. There isn’t a launch date or price just yet, but Maserati has confirmed the GranTurismo will first be available with a PrimaSeries 75th Anniversary Launch Edition. It will feature ‘exclusive content dedicated to the production of the first GranTurismo 75 years ago.’ Expect more details on that, the interior, and the Folgore’s actual range, in due course.


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Julian Scott

Original Poster:

4,308 posts

54 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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That's nice. Fingers crossed it:

a) actually arrives
b) is a success

Milemuncher

558 posts

145 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Pleased to see they haven’t messed around too much with the original design. In a world of increasingly ugly cars, it remains elegant. Not a huge fan of the new headlights but I’m sure they will grow on me.

ChrisCh86

1,132 posts

74 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Oooh the GranTurismo Trofeo looks lovely in that red. A subtle evolution of what came before, but I really like it. Subtle, classy and unmistakeably Maserati.

I wonder what the price difference will be between the ICE and EV models?

leglessAlex

7,412 posts

171 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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It certainly looks good, and you know what? I like the idea of that sound synthesiser.

Not the biggest battery but a fairly slippery shape, so I’d imagine something like 250 miles of range, which I think is perfectly okay with fast charging.

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,772 posts

128 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Design team not exactly working overtime here...

Still, the old ( 2008 ? ) car was always a looker so maybe not the end of the world, and, as a proper 4 seater, it doesn't have a lot of competition.

Just hope Maserati haven't cut corners on the development, as they often seem prone to do....

greggy50

6,281 posts

221 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Looks a good product to me and the electric version sounds interesting. The previous gran turismo was a great piece of design that still looked fresh considering the age of it so I am glad they haven't messed around with it too much

I fear the electric one will be at least £200k however. If they got it closer to Taycan Turbo S money it would sell like hot cakes.

footsoldier

2,298 posts

222 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Looks good, 4WD adds useability, and 500kg shows that EVs have a long way to go

Robertb

3,897 posts

268 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Priced right, that could be a winner. Good looking and interesting.

The prospect of an Italian EV terrifies me, but I imagine Italian electronics have improved.

Japveesix

4,576 posts

198 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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The design and shape of the car is still pretty much perfect. The wheels on the EV version are absolutely horrendous.

Vee12V

1,410 posts

190 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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They certainly nailed the looks, I'll give em that.

jl34

555 posts

267 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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I thought that was a Jaguar F type until i looked closer!

In fact the MC20 to me looked just like the CX75 that didn't go into production, its interesting the italians known for there masterful styling have looked to the brits for inspiration. Still it has its own take and it works well.

RBV8

423 posts

261 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Watched a clip of this on YouTube last week...

https://youtu.be/z128x0dI-9g

Still no interior shots in this article, they were all blurred out in the film.

Macboy

784 posts

235 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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The battery is very small for the performance and power output. Owning and running an EV as a main car gives you a very cynical view of the relationship between performance and battery capacity. Even on the motorway at consistent 70-ish mph the range drops dramatically - on a recent run to Cornwall our VW ID had 225 miles of range to start and managed (with a 20 mile buffer) 155 miles on the motorway before we charged when an A-road run would have been close to or better than 225. I can't imagine what 700+ hp and 199mph speed does to range - even with an 83kw battery using the performance or driving fast (where you can) is going to make the range like the worst of V8 and V12 supercars I'd imagine.

pete

1,634 posts

314 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Good news: at just under 5m long it's big enough to still be a decent 4 seater (although it might weigh as much as HMS Belfast).

Bad news: at just under 5m long it's too long to fit in my garage frown

Kipsrs

721 posts

79 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Still a cracking looking car, hope it’s a success for them. .

Klippie

3,608 posts

175 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Looks lovely as do most Italain sports cars...there is a however and will it become a horror show to own.

This has "the dealer has it more than me" and money pit written all over it.

swisstoni

24,126 posts

309 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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The old one always looked slightly off to me somehow.
This one seems to have had whatever it was that was putting me off fixed.

I’d have to see the two together to work it out.
Glad to see some better looking Maseratis coming along.

ITP

2,747 posts

227 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Klippie said:
Looks lovely as do most Italain sports cars...there is a however and will it become a horror show to own.

This has "the dealer has it more than me" and money pit written all over it.
Best get a equally complicated German ev then, or maybe a Range Rover product, they’ll never go wrong…

I would imagine however that the components used in everyone’s ev will all come from China anyway, so they will all be as reliable, or not, as each other.

On that basis I’d have this all day long as it’s so much better looking than overstyled recent German offerings.

Let’s see what the price is though!

NJJ

530 posts

110 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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But why no interior pics ? Has anyone seen any ?

sisu

3,011 posts

203 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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said:
Bad news: at just under 5m long it's too long to fit in my garage frown
Which is why my garage is 5m x 7m for each bay. We didn't use the dining room, my wife wanted a bigger kitchen island and the world is a happier place.


It does look a bit Jaguari F-Typo italiano though.