Acusensus Mobile Phone / Seatbelt Detection Cameras
Acusensus Mobile Phone / Seatbelt Detection Cameras
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thetapeworm

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13,782 posts

268 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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I haven't seen this discussed recently (I did search, I found a post from 2006) but this is likely to get some press coverage soon by the looks of it. The camera works with AI to capture content and then apparently sends images to Australia to be checked by humans.



Youtube said:
The Acusensus system is housed in a vehicle equipped with multiple cameras that record footage of passing motorists on our roads.

Images captured by the cameras are processed using artificial intelligence (AI) to determine if motorists were using a handheld mobile phone or if drivers and passengers were without a seat belt. It can also determine the speed a vehicle was travelling at the time.

Any images in which a potential offence is detected are then reviewed by a human. If an offence has been correctly identified, the driver will either be sent a warning letter or a notice of intended prosecution, depending on the severity
I have no issue with this, I'm sick of seeing people driving along playing with phones in their hand but I wonder if it will be extended to cover other potential distractions like rolling a cigarette or putting make-up on etc


LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

75 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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I would quite happily drive along a patch of motorway up and down all day with a sideways camera installed in a vehicle, say within your county borders on say the M1, booking people for being on a phone, camera takes the picture, uploads it somehow or to a card, send data to DVLA, ticket in the post.

Or even better have the ability to pull people over (unlikely for legal and safety reasons) but I would never, ever tire of it.

glennjamin

443 posts

92 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Devon and Cornwall Police are trialing this equipment caught 120 for not wearing seat belts and 60 mobile phone users in two days. Going to generate alot of income ! . Was surprised of amount of people not wearing seat belts.

thetapeworm

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13,782 posts

268 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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glennjamin said:
Devon and Cornwall Police are trialing this equipment caught 120 for not wearing seat belts and 60 mobile phone users in two days. Going to generate alot of income ! . Was surprised of amount of people not wearing seat belts.
I've never really understood the seat belt thing, especially as a lot of them have it clicked in place anyway to prevent the constant "bong" noise on newer cars.


GranpaB

19,826 posts

65 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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thetapeworm said:
glennjamin said:
Devon and Cornwall Police are trialing this equipment caught 120 for not wearing seat belts and 60 mobile phone users in two days. Going to generate alot of income ! . Was surprised of amount of people not wearing seat belts.
I've never really understood the seat belt thing, especially as a lot of them have it clicked in place anyway to prevent the constant "bong" noise on newer cars.
Easy to circumnavigate.


thetapeworm

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13,782 posts

268 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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GranpaB said:
thetapeworm said:
glennjamin said:
Devon and Cornwall Police are trialing this equipment caught 120 for not wearing seat belts and 60 mobile phone users in two days. Going to generate alot of income ! . Was surprised of amount of people not wearing seat belts.
I've never really understood the seat belt thing, especially as a lot of them have it clicked in place anyway to prevent the constant "bong" noise on newer cars.
Easy to circumnavigate.
I don't doubt it for a moment and I know you can buy the clips to put in for when you've switched to a racing harness on track etc but for day to day road use I'll never understand the desire to actively avoid a safety device like this.

Fozziebear

1,840 posts

169 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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If they can show transparency of funds collected and then spent on real policing id be happy, but we all know this money will vanish into the blackhole and never be seen again.

LosingGrip

8,843 posts

188 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Fozziebear said:
If they can show transparency of funds collected and then spent on real policing id be happy, but we all know this money will vanish into the blackhole and never be seen again.
I'll bite. Whats real policing?

2Btoo

3,810 posts

232 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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LukeBrown66 said:
I would quite happily drive along a patch of motorway up and down all day with a sideways camera installed in a vehicle, say within your county borders on say the M1, booking people for being on a phone, camera takes the picture, uploads it somehow or to a card, send data to DVLA, ticket in the post.

Or even better have the ability to pull people over (unlikely for legal and safety reasons) but I would never, ever tire of it.
I wouldn't go quite this far but I'd be very happy to see enforcement of rules other than speeding.

ashleyman

7,284 posts

128 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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The amount of people I see on phones whilst commuting to work on a bike is actually disgusting.

Every single day I am on the bike I will see multiple people on phones. This is without even looking for it. You just know someone is on the phone, the way the car is positioned, the amount of time it takes to pull off, certain gaps between cars. Then you go past and there's the phone in the hand with the head down. The amount of people who have shat their pants when I rev the bike as I pass just shows people are not paying attention. One guy dropped his phone out the window of his van which was hilarious.

Phone use is not something I support or want to see on the roads. I think it's way more distracting and dangerous than speed ever could be.

I've often thought about getting a helmet cam and sending off footage of people on their phones whilst on the bike but there's so many people doing it it would take forever to get through the footage and send it off.

I do wonder though with devices like this, is every NIP reviewed by a human before being sent out? Maybe I should watch the video.

thetapeworm

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13,782 posts

268 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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ashleyman said:
I do wonder though with devices like this, is every NIP reviewed by a human before being sent out? Maybe I should watch the video.
It's worth a watch but apparently all of the images captured that are deemed as being violations are checked by a human, in Australia.

I would imagine that should this kind of system get installed in more places those human checks will move to a low-paid offshore factory at whatever location human life is least valued at that time.

julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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I think I am going to make a small fortune selling tee-shirts which have a black stripe where a seat belt would be.

julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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DAMN!!

spaximus

4,365 posts

282 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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I am happy with this but only if every penny goes to the government. If it doesn't this will be another cash cow for the "stakeholders" and not one single penny will be given to central government.

Without spending this money, just get a person to stand at the side of the road and see what is going on. A couple of days ago I saw a moped delivery rider using his phone whilst riding on handed, they have no fear of punishment

thetapeworm

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13,782 posts

268 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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spaximus said:
I am happy with this but only if every penny goes to the government. If it doesn't this will be another cash cow for the "stakeholders" and not one single penny will be given to central government.

Without spending this money, just get a person to stand at the side of the road and see what is going on. A couple of days ago I saw a moped delivery rider using his phone whilst riding on handed, they have no fear of punishment
Enforcement would definitely help, I played a game on Saturday in Leeds and made a virtual £12500 in fines for cyclists (delivery riders) riding on the pavement in less than 2 hours, quite a few while messing with their phones on bikes that were flying along at quite a pace without needing any pedalling biglaugh

ashleyman

7,284 posts

128 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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spaximus said:
I am happy with this but only if every penny goes to the government. If it doesn't this will be another cash cow for the "stakeholders" and not one single penny will be given to central government.

Without spending this money, just get a person to stand at the side of the road and see what is going on. A couple of days ago I saw a moped delivery rider using his phone whilst riding on handed, they have no fear of punishment
They could sit on the back of my bike and make about £2000 a day I reckon. Or come and stand in our office window and watch people in the traffic caused by red traffic lights. It’s so easy to spot them.

J__Wood

578 posts

90 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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thetapeworm said:
Enforcement would definitely help, I played a game on Saturday in Leeds and made a virtual £12500 in fines for cyclists (delivery riders) riding on the pavement in less than 2 hours, quite a few while messing with their phones on bikes that were flying along at quite a pace without needing any pedalling biglaugh
I like this game, how much are your fines for each rider, I'd like to see how much I could collect for all the same legislation 'driving on the pavement' that people need to do to park on the pavement?

thetapeworm

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13,782 posts

268 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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J__Wood said:
thetapeworm said:
Enforcement would definitely help, I played a game on Saturday in Leeds and made a virtual £12500 in fines for cyclists (delivery riders) riding on the pavement in less than 2 hours, quite a few while messing with their phones on bikes that were flying along at quite a pace without needing any pedalling biglaugh
I like this game, how much are your fines for each rider, I'd like to see how much I could collect for all the same legislation 'driving on the pavement' that people need to do to park on the pavement?
I'm pretty harsh so went with the "up to £500" fine rather than the potential on the spot £30 on the more likely "turn a blind eye".


CoolHands

23,393 posts

224 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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This is up there with tv detector vans

Fozziebear

1,840 posts

169 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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LosingGrip said:
Fozziebear said:
If they can show transparency of funds collected and then spent on real policing id be happy, but we all know this money will vanish into the blackhole and never be seen again.
I'll bite. Whats real policing?
More physical police on the streets preventing crimes that impact on innocent people, and when I say physical police I actually mean plod that are actually of a fitness level, smart enough and actually able to deal with scrotes. PCSO's don't work, modern police recruitment doesn't work, a degree to police, don't be daft, if you want to reduce stabbings, theft, violence we need a robust type who can deal with it. Sorry, its been a long day,