Real drivers v's sim racers just did battle...
Real drivers v's sim racers just did battle...
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mattikake

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5,103 posts

219 months

Wednesday 5th October 2022
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This is a recreation of the real world mighty mini championship. If you've watched enough BTCC or Goodwood revival you've probably seen the real things racing. Some of the real mighty mini drivers (including the current champion) are here racing against sim racers and we have the actual mighty mini commentator doing the commentary for the sim racing.

The result is a very professional presentation and makes for top viewing.

The intro explaining it all is @7:40

https://youtu.be/GtIu3Jn8R90

Edited by mattikake on Wednesday 5th October 23:32

RacerMike

4,572 posts

231 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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Great stream. Did a few mixed real/sim racer things like this over lockdown, and still compete in an iRacing champ against loads of Club100 ex and current karters. Regularly on iRacing doing public stuff too and properly enjoyed falling back in love with Sim racing after doing loads in my early 20s (Live For Speed mainly) before not really doing anything whilst I was racing for real from 2010-2016.

Surprised there isn't much discussion of sim racing on PH. I guess perhaps the audience is a little old here for 'video games' but assume there must be a few on iRacing given how wide the audience is there. Certainly see quite a few people I know pop up on there, and you get the occasional big name appear in a race.

mattikake

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5,103 posts

219 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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Well I'm 49 and there's people older then me playing although most are in their teens to 20's. No idea why more PH'ers don't do this. It's a cheap and increasingly realistic experience.

Makes for great viewing when you have a professional commentator doing the commentary. But racing real drivers in the cars they race irl is a pretty rare experience.

Chunkychucky

6,094 posts

189 months

Tuesday 11th October 2022
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RacerMike said:
Surprised there isn't much discussion of sim racing on PH. I guess perhaps the audience is a little old here for 'video games' but assume there must be a few on iRacing given how wide the audience is there. Certainly see quite a few people I know pop up on there, and you get the occasional big name appear in a race.
Tried extolling the virtues of iRacing when I first joined 10+ years ago, largely fell on deaf ears here as at the time people largely still wanted the casual experience of picking up an Xbox/PS3 controller and sitting on the sofa for 2+ hours.

Now, people have become much more accepting of wheels, and yet they still happily pay through the nose to play sub-standard st like Gran Turismo 7... confused Their loss imo!

As for the 'Real Drivers vs Sim Racers', i've lost count of the number of 'Real Drivers' i've met on iRacing (Lando Norris, Max Verstappen to name a couple - even chatted with Lando), and this was just either doing open practice sessions anyone can register for, or by doing the usual iRacing-organised series races. So, OP, Real Drivers vs Sim Racers do battle every day smile

mattikake

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5,103 posts

219 months

Thursday 13th October 2022
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In defence of the GT games, I've done a lot of sim racing on variois true sims but the biggest issue is racing is not close or it's decide by mistakes, ultimate it was boring and time consuming (work on setup). Love or hate the simcade physics I simply cannot knock 10 people running nose-to-tail trying overtakes for an entire race, rather than trying to concentrate on not losing it. The GT games seem to understand that without true SOP feedback you cannot have serious sim AND close racing. For the vast majority it's only one or the other.

Anyway yes I am aware sim racers and real racers have met, but this is an official promo series for the real race series, and the real series drivers are joining in. That's rare.

RacerMike

4,572 posts

231 months

Thursday 13th October 2022
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GT7 is great. iRacing however is super close. I’ve had some incredible races in there similar to battle I’ve had in reality and many of the series will see the top split separated by less than a second in qualifying from 1st to 15th!

usn90

1,913 posts

90 months

Thursday 13th October 2022
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I’m kind of Surprised the likes of max and lando use their real names on these games, I’d imagine it would be nice to just “chill”
And have fun from time to time without carrying the expectation to thrash every tom dick and Harry on them

RacerMike

4,572 posts

231 months

Thursday 13th October 2022
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usn90 said:
I’m kind of Surprised the likes of max and lando use their real names on these games, I’d imagine it would be nice to just “chill”
And have fun from time to time without carrying the expectation to thrash every tom dick and Harry on them
The way iRacing works, it only ever puts you in a race split with drivers of similar ability. People like Max are 8000 iRating (the average is about 1700). He’s said in interviews before that he likes the challenge of not being the quickest guy. There are proper alien drivers on there who are quicker than him without much practice….I believe he only really does team events with his team Redline, but he practices a lot before doing them.

If he you so desire though you can use a fake name. I’m sure there are some people on there under aliases and a few of the top driver have ‘Smurf’ accounts so as not to tank their hard earned 8k plus driver rating when doing normal day to day fun races. The crazy thing is their Smurf accounts are often 4k plus!

usn90

1,913 posts

90 months

Thursday 13th October 2022
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Yeah I know there a some proper aliens on those games, even on console there are some proper quick guys on the f1 leagues I used to participate in.

My friend Oliver Webb uses his real name too, if it were me I’d be using some random account name, or like you say have two

Chunkychucky

6,094 posts

189 months

Friday 14th October 2022
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mattikake said:
Love or hate the simcade physics I simply cannot knock 10 people running nose-to-tail trying overtakes for an entire race, rather than trying to concentrate on not losing it. The GT games seem to understand that without true SOP feedback you cannot have serious sim AND close racing. For the vast majority it's only one or the other.

Anyway yes I am aware sim racers and real racers have met, but this is an official promo series for the real race series, and the real series drivers are joining in. That's rare.
Absolutely, hence why I was ploughing hundreds of hours in to FM3/FM4 10 years ago, as they perfected the formula IMO and had a great online racing setup. The fact it's taken until now for GT Sport/7 to offer a suitable alternative, and (according to the people that actually play GT7) for it still to be buggy af is a bit astounding tbh.

mattikake

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5,103 posts

219 months

Wednesday 19th October 2022
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Just had round 3 and it was intense!

https://youtu.be/_z5chgCwCsY

Still blown away with the quality of the commentary

Bullett

11,104 posts

204 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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Quite a few iRacing threads on here. I've been doing it for years on and off, I'm not the best but I enjoy it.

I got my lad an account, he's been doing real-life karts for about a year now but I thought this would be good for extra seat time. Won his first two Formula Vee races and got out of rookies in less than a season. The little bugger.
Suddenly performing much better in real-life as well.

I'll take a look at these vids with him.

RobGT81

5,229 posts

206 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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Back in the day, Sean Edwards (RIP) would host iRacing servers for fans and pros, just tweet out a password an hour before it started. Used to be some fun sessions with fans, journos and pro GT drivers.

BillyWhizz888

959 posts

173 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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I been on iracing for year n half now and few month ago was racing against some btcc driver. Bobby Thomson is v quick. Adam Morgan, Ash, to name a few and the f1 driver used to race with alfa romeo.

I've done lemans 24hour spa24 hour and allot if other endurance races

I was in a team that was all serious and chasing for a win every time regardless so being casual myself I joined another team where winning ain't important. Finishing is all they look for. Yeh we had few wins and podiums but its all for fun at the end of the day.

With myself only able to race at weekends allot of the leagues take part during week and very little at weekends other than official specials. Ect

Raced project cars 1/2 and ams2 allot but I feel get better racing and more realistic feel from iracing as well as setting up rules regs pit stops work better on ir than it does on others