SOR with a dealer - how do you protect yourself
SOR with a dealer - how do you protect yourself
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Jonny TVR

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4,548 posts

309 months

Thursday 6th October 2022
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Just this really. Looking to sell a car via a dealer. If they go bump then I may lose it. Is there a way to protect my ownership of the car in such a circumstance?

Unreal

10,290 posts

53 months

Thursday 6th October 2022
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If they go under you may well find the forecourt cleared the day before. Locating and recovering your car then becomes a major ballache. It's the risk you take.

alscar

9,233 posts

241 months

Thursday 6th October 2022
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Not really able to protect which is why vital to do research first and /or have prior knowledge of the dealer in question.

jason61c

5,978 posts

202 months

Thursday 6th October 2022
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they never own the car, its the same as having your own car parked at a dealer. Just keep the V5, a letter stating that they have zero ownership of the car.

Baldchap

9,613 posts

120 months

Thursday 6th October 2022
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jason61c said:
they never own the car, its the same as having your own car parked at a dealer. Just keep the V5, a letter stating that they have zero ownership of the car.
This. At no point is it theirs so any administrators can't take ownership of it/sell it/whatever.

Numpty with honours

218 posts

111 months

Thursday 6th October 2022
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So long as you hold the V5 form and correspondence that they are holding the car to your order and that title is with you, then any claim from a liquidator/ trustee in bankruptcy to the asset can be easily defeated and it is quite common for a car dealership to hold assets in trust for others. So I don't see an issue there.

However, if they apply for a new V5 behind your back and sell it, then there could be issues in recovering the car/monies. In some ways, if there was a finance agreement on the car you would be altered as soon as someone tried to clear or make enquiries on the finance as the finance company would contact you. This of course would be fraud and the individuals would be open to a criminal prosecution regardless of whether it was done through a limited company.

As is clearly stated on the V5 form it is not proof of ownership and in the circumstances I have outlined above you would recover the car from the unfortunate purchaser who would then have to claim against the garage/individuals that "sold" the car to them

Shaoxter

4,573 posts

152 months

Thursday 6th October 2022
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Best way to protect your car is to not put it on SOR in the first place, unless they are a main dealer or extremely well respected indy. I speak from personal experience having almost lost a car...

Even the reputable dealerships have gone under and ran away with the sale proceeds, check out Gmund.

Chamon_Lee

3,948 posts

175 months

Thursday 6th October 2022
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Shaoxter said:
Best way to protect your car is to not put it on SOR in the first place, unless they are a main dealer or extremely well respected indy. I speak from personal experience having almost lost a car...

Even the reputable dealerships have gone under and ran away with the sale proceeds, check out Gmund.
Personally I’m the same. I just don’t take the risk. Especially in the current climate if not be taking a risk.

The spinner of plates

18,084 posts

228 months

Thursday 6th October 2022
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Chamon_Lee said:
Shaoxter said:
Best way to protect your car is to not put it on SOR in the first place, unless they are a main dealer or extremely well respected indy. I speak from personal experience having almost lost a car...

Even the reputable dealerships have gone under and ran away with the sale proceeds, check out Gmund.
Personally I’m the same. I just don’t take the risk. Especially in the current climate if not be taking a risk.
Yup, the dealer sent me their standard SOR policy doc as part of discussion - even my untrained legal eyes could drive a bus through it.

So I negotiated a slightly lower purchase price so the dealer could buy it from me.

May have lost out on a potential grand or two in my pocket, but happy to avoid the faff, risk, delays etc with a clean deal.


Zippee

14,095 posts

262 months

Thursday 6th October 2022
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Baldchap said:
jason61c said:
they never own the car, its the same as having your own car parked at a dealer. Just keep the V5, a letter stating that they have zero ownership of the car.
This. At no point is it theirs so any administrators can't take ownership of it/sell it/whatever.
Unless it's 'sold' just before they go under. There are quite a few tales of loss of substantial amounts of money/expensive cars on these forums.