Lexus 300h or Toyota RAV4?
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Depends if you want a saloon or a decent sized mini SUV. Both will be ultra reliable, and essential have the same powertrain. Our IS300H is soon 8 years old, I now only get an oil change every 24months as the car does so little miles(its never needed a drop of oil between services), and I cannot remember anything every failing on it, even the 12V battery is still factory original.
It's however as exciting to drive as watching paint dry, it maybe RWD but even on snow the TC stops any kind of 'fun'. Great reliable cars though, the IS in particular with higher spec is loaded with toys, ACC, reversing camera, etc even on our 2015 car.
Our does a true 45mpg pretty much all year round, tires last 20k+ miles, brake pads still haven't needed changing at 37k miles.
It's however as exciting to drive as watching paint dry, it maybe RWD but even on snow the TC stops any kind of 'fun'. Great reliable cars though, the IS in particular with higher spec is loaded with toys, ACC, reversing camera, etc even on our 2015 car.
Our does a true 45mpg pretty much all year round, tires last 20k+ miles, brake pads still haven't needed changing at 37k miles.
The Mad Monk said:
Sorry. It's either the Toyota RAV4 or - I should have said - the Lexus NX300H. They are both SUVs. As I understand it the RAV4 is the cooking version of the NX300h. So - which one? Pay the extra money and get the full fat version, or.....?
We went through this exact scenario recently, used cars.We found a beautiful NX F-sport which had red/black seats. The interior was much nicer than the Ravs we saw.
We could have bought either though, it came down to the fact that the Toyota dealer was closer to home for servicing etc..
Disappointing drive though (gearbox) so we ended up with a Puma ST with the wifes only must have option of electric tailgate.
Toyota/Lexus good buys though with the potential 10 year warranty if you keep the main dealer servicing.
The Mad Monk said:
Sorry. It's either the Toyota RAV4 or - I should have said - the Lexus NX300H. They are both SUVs. As I understand it the RAV4 is the cooking version of the NX300h. So - which one? Pay the extra money and get the full fat version, or.....?
NX300H has noticeably pooer mpg and performance than the IS300H. The RX450H powertrain is what a SUV body style needs.The Toyota is the same, but paying extra for the Lexus badge, I personally thinks the powertrain performance is sub par for the brand. The IS300H may be dull to drive to but atleast it hits the number you expect without too much effort.
Save the cash and stick with the Toyota. RX450H is a very nice though, and not much worse on mpg vs the NX300H, totally different level of refinement.
Over the 4 years I owned my 2014 NX, my mpg averaged just under 28mpg. Granted a lot of the time with wife and 3 kids in car around hilly Derbyshire. In winter 22-23, summer 30mpg. Swapped it for a model Y.
Lovely car, so comfy, quiet and in premier (or takumi in newer models) spec pretty much every toy you can want, but don't go buying one thinking you'll save money running it. I miss the comfy seats (MY are awful), the HUD, the 360 cameras, the ventilated seats in summer. Only thing a bit pants is the media system, but was improved slightly in 2018.
EV mode range is around half a mile on a flat, I think the none hybrid version would have been better on mog for my use.
Lexus servicing is expensive, £800 for service, mot and a change of rear pads.
Lovely car, so comfy, quiet and in premier (or takumi in newer models) spec pretty much every toy you can want, but don't go buying one thinking you'll save money running it. I miss the comfy seats (MY are awful), the HUD, the 360 cameras, the ventilated seats in summer. Only thing a bit pants is the media system, but was improved slightly in 2018.
EV mode range is around half a mile on a flat, I think the none hybrid version would have been better on mog for my use.
Lexus servicing is expensive, £800 for service, mot and a change of rear pads.
The Mad Monk said:
Sorry. It's either the Toyota RAV4 or - I should have said - the Lexus NX300H. They are both SUVs. As I understand it the RAV4 is the cooking version of the NX300h. So - which one? Pay the extra money and get the full fat version, or.....?
Any reason one of these two, or are you open to other options?jaydeeuk1 said:
Lexus servicing is expensive, £800 for service, mot and a change of rear pads.
That seems high. I pay £55 for an MOT and minor service £270, on a service plan for my 450h. Had rear discs & pads changed for £300.Manufacturer warranty can also be extended to 15 years/150k miles on Lexus, not sure about Toyota.
jaydeeuk1 said:
Over the 4 years I owned my 2014 NX, my mpg averaged just under 28mpg. Granted a lot of the time with wife and 3 kids in car around hilly Derbyshire. In winter 22-23, summer 30mpg. Swapped it for a model Y.
Lovely car, so comfy, quiet and in premier (or takumi in newer models) spec pretty much every toy you can want, but don't go buying one thinking you'll save money running it. I miss the comfy seats (MY are awful), the HUD, the 360 cameras, the ventilated seats in summer. Only thing a bit pants is the media system, but was improved slightly in 2018.
EV mode range is around half a mile on a flat, I think the none hybrid version would have been better on mog for my use.
Lexus servicing is expensive, £800 for service, mot and a change of rear pads.
Crikey, that's expensive.Lovely car, so comfy, quiet and in premier (or takumi in newer models) spec pretty much every toy you can want, but don't go buying one thinking you'll save money running it. I miss the comfy seats (MY are awful), the HUD, the 360 cameras, the ventilated seats in summer. Only thing a bit pants is the media system, but was improved slightly in 2018.
EV mode range is around half a mile on a flat, I think the none hybrid version would have been better on mog for my use.
Lexus servicing is expensive, £800 for service, mot and a change of rear pads.
Glad we didn't buy one now.
Have Toyota and Lexus upped their servicing costs since they introduced the new warranty scheme?
Silvanus said:
The Mad Monk said:
Sorry. It's either the Toyota RAV4 or - I should have said - the Lexus NX300H. They are both SUVs. As I understand it the RAV4 is the cooking version of the NX300h. So - which one? Pay the extra money and get the full fat version, or.....?
Any reason one of these two, or are you open to other options?What were you thinking?
The Mad Monk said:
Silvanus said:
The Mad Monk said:
Sorry. It's either the Toyota RAV4 or - I should have said - the Lexus NX300H. They are both SUVs. As I understand it the RAV4 is the cooking version of the NX300h. So - which one? Pay the extra money and get the full fat version, or.....?
Any reason one of these two, or are you open to other options?What were you thinking?
Scrubs said:
Get the top spec version of the Hybrid Rav4.
Comfortable, spacious, reliable, 50+ mpg, 20 notes a year road tax, and all the kit you really need.
Is that from experience or based on what they are like on paper. Interested as my neighbour looked at them quite recently and he didn't go for oneComfortable, spacious, reliable, 50+ mpg, 20 notes a year road tax, and all the kit you really need.
Silvanus said:
Is that from experience or based on what they are like on paper. Interested as my neighbour looked at them quite recently and he didn't go for one
Experience. Purchased a 2018 one a few months back as a run about and for a 15 mile work commute and it has been excellent. Never owned a hybrid before. Very comfortable and I just leave it in Eco mode all the time and let it do its thing. Only way I ever notice if it's using the battery or the engine is by looking at the dash indications. Never notice the engine kicking or out in unless I put my foot down. It's very quiet. Was tempted by the newer version but couldn't justify the 37k price tag for what is a second car for me. Think they both have the same 2.5ltr engines anyway. LED headlights, comfort access, bluetooth streaming, DAB etc.. No complaints.Scrubs said:
Silvanus said:
Is that from experience or based on what they are like on paper. Interested as my neighbour looked at them quite recently and he didn't go for one
Experience. Purchased a 2018 one a few months back as a run about and for a 15 mile work commute and it has been excellent. Never owned a hybrid before. Very comfortable and I just leave it in Eco mode all the time and let it do its thing. Only way I ever notice if it's using the battery or the engine is by looking at the dash indications. Never notice the engine kicking or out in unless I put my foot down. It's very quiet. Was tempted by the newer version but couldn't justify the 37k price tag for what is a second car for me. Think they both have the same 2.5ltr engines anyway. LED headlights, comfort access, bluetooth streaming, DAB etc.. No complaints.Gassing Station | Car Buying | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff