DVLA and cherished number swap
Discussion
Wasn't sure the best place to ask this question.
I currently have a cherished number on and would like to take this off (retention) and put a new cherished number onto the vehicle.
Can I do this in one transaction ?
Or is it take off the cherished number onto retention, wait on the new V5 and then apply the new cherished number once the new V5 is received ? This seems a bit of a faff.
I used the online portal as a test and it didn't mention about retention of the existing plate but would allow me to put the new one on. I'm just scared I lose the cherished number coming off this way as it won't go on retention.
I currently have a cherished number on and would like to take this off (retention) and put a new cherished number onto the vehicle.
Can I do this in one transaction ?
Or is it take off the cherished number onto retention, wait on the new V5 and then apply the new cherished number once the new V5 is received ? This seems a bit of a faff.
I used the online portal as a test and it didn't mention about retention of the existing plate but would allow me to put the new one on. I'm just scared I lose the cherished number coming off this way as it won't go on retention.
From what I can decipher, once you take a plate off a car they send you an email imediately with the retention certificate number so that it can be put onto another car, but I believe you'll have to wait for the new V5 to come through before putting on the new plate onto the car.
I wish there was a way of doing this in one transaction online as I sometimes have to do it myself and I am the same, petrified of losing one of my plates!
I wish there was a way of doing this in one transaction online as I sometimes have to do it myself and I am the same, petrified of losing one of my plates!
On a similar theme - my wife wants to transfer her existing private plate to her brand new currently unregistered car that arrives shortly. Do we first have to retain the same number online and then second step get the garage to allocate the same number ( we would use the online portal )and then simultaneously tax it etc ?
Form 317 appears to allow you to do this but not online per se and it’s not clear to me whether you can can indeed just do this in two consecutive steps although logic says you should be able to do so.
Thanks.
Form 317 appears to allow you to do this but not online per se and it’s not clear to me whether you can can indeed just do this in two consecutive steps although logic says you should be able to do so.
Thanks.
alscar said:
On a similar theme - my wife wants to transfer her existing private plate to her brand new currently unregistered car that arrives shortly. Do we first have to retain the same number online and then second step get the garage to allocate the same number ( we would use the online portal )and then simultaneously tax it etc ?
Form 317 appears to allow you to do this but not online per se and it’s not clear to me whether you can can indeed just do this in two consecutive steps although logic says you should be able to do so.
Thanks.
Whenever I've done it I pop mine on retention, give the certificate to the dealer & all sorted. Form 317 appears to allow you to do this but not online per se and it’s not clear to me whether you can can indeed just do this in two consecutive steps although logic says you should be able to do so.
Thanks.
2sb , that sounds like a good plan and thanks for the quick reply but do we have to wait for the retention certificate to physically arrive before we can actually get it assigned to her new car - or in effect is the retention done on line with confirmation that I can then just email the dealer ?
I had assumed that I could retain the number and then a couple of days later drive to the dealer to get the new car picked up but obviously if I have to wait for snail mail first that’s seems unlikely.
I had assumed that I could retain the number and then a couple of days later drive to the dealer to get the new car picked up but obviously if I have to wait for snail mail first that’s seems unlikely.
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
alscar said:
On a similar theme - my wife wants to transfer her existing private plate to her brand new currently unregistered car that arrives shortly. Do we first have to retain the same number online and then second step get the garage to allocate the same number ( we would use the online portal )and then simultaneously tax it etc ?
Form 317 appears to allow you to do this but not online per se and it’s not clear to me whether you can can indeed just do this in two consecutive steps although logic says you should be able to do so.
Thanks.
Whenever I've done it I pop mine on retention, give the certificate to the dealer & all sorted. Form 317 appears to allow you to do this but not online per se and it’s not clear to me whether you can can indeed just do this in two consecutive steps although logic says you should be able to do so.
Thanks.
Mustang , yes I get that part - it’s just as per my reply above how the timing works - if I put on retention then have to wait say a week for the post to then send the certificate etc doesn’t that mean I will also have to get the replacement plates fitted to her existing car in the meantime ?
Apologies if I’m being a bit dense.
Apologies if I’m being a bit dense.
regarding the insurance admin charges, I called an insurance company a few years ago to infomr them of a change of plate. When they said there would be a charge I asked them if I waited until the renewal to tell them would I still be insured? The answer was that I would still be insured but that I could be pulled over by the police as my number would be flagged as uninsured. They ended up changing the number and waiving the admin charge - to get me off the phone!
alscar said:
2sb , that sounds like a good plan and thanks for the quick reply but do we have to wait for the retention certificate to physically arrive before we can actually get it assigned to her new car - or in effect is the retention done on line with confirmation that I can then just email the dealer ?
I had assumed that I could retain the number and then a couple of days later drive to the dealer to get the new car picked up but obviously if I have to wait for snail mail first that’s seems unlikely.
The retention cert (strikes excluded!) has always arrived very quickly. The dealer may well have an inside track I'm not aware of. But, as I say that's the way I've always been asked to do it. I had assumed that I could retain the number and then a couple of days later drive to the dealer to get the new car picked up but obviously if I have to wait for snail mail first that’s seems unlikely.
WhiskyDisco said:
regarding the insurance admin charges, I called an insurance company a few years ago to infomr them of a change of plate. When they said there would be a charge I asked them if I waited until the renewal to tell them would I still be insured? The answer was that I would still be insured but that I could be pulled over by the police as my number would be flagged as uninsured. They ended up changing the number and waiving the admin charge - to get me off the phone!
I have in the last 6 months moaned about this when I put the current cherished numbers on both cars (admiral multi car) at different points in that period and managed to get it waived. However I will now be doing this 4 times, 2 per car which I think will be pushing the boundaries of goodwill !alscar said:
2sb , that sounds like a good plan and thanks for the quick reply but do we have to wait for the retention certificate to physically arrive before we can actually get it assigned to her new car - or in effect is the retention done on line with confirmation that I can then just email the dealer ?
I had assumed that I could retain the number and then a couple of days later drive to the dealer to get the new car picked up but obviously if I have to wait for snail mail first that’s seems unlikely.
I believe you get a retention code instantly if done online which you can pass to the dealer. The paperwork will still follow in the post.I had assumed that I could retain the number and then a couple of days later drive to the dealer to get the new car picked up but obviously if I have to wait for snail mail first that’s seems unlikely.
alscar said:
Mustang , yes I get that part - it’s just as per my reply above how the timing works - if I put on retention then have to wait say a week for the post to then send the certificate etc doesn’t that mean I will also have to get the replacement plates fitted to her existing car in the meantime ?
Apologies if I’m being a bit dense.
Yes to getting the new plates onto the car you have taken the number off if it is going on the road. The car will now be on the DVLA database with the new registration. This registration is usually the original for the car. I usually keep the number plates when I put on a personal plate. If the car was on a private plate from new then it will be a random year-related registration.Apologies if I’m being a bit dense.
I insure our cars with LV and have never been charged an admin fee for a number plate change.
Footman James (for a classic car) don't charge an admin fee for a number plate change. I think Direct Line don't charge either, if I remember correctly.
Therre is (or was?) a form V317 to transfer straight from on car to another.
In t'old days when there were DVLA regional offices, I did this but with everything going to Swansea, perhaps not. It does state you can do it online, but perhaps this is now a defunct form? (The page is dated 2012) Perhaps from the days of paper discs it reduced admin and production of replacement tax discs?
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...
Therre is (or was?) a form V317 to transfer straight from on car to another.
In t'old days when there were DVLA regional offices, I did this but with everything going to Swansea, perhaps not. It does state you can do it online, but perhaps this is now a defunct form? (The page is dated 2012) Perhaps from the days of paper discs it reduced admin and production of replacement tax discs?
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...
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