RE: BMW M on track for best-ever sales in 50th year
RE: BMW M on track for best-ever sales in 50th year
Monday 10th October 2022

BMW M on track for best-ever sales in 50th year

M GmbH promised to make a big splash to celebrate its half-century. Its customers have responded


Ahead of the new BMW M2 reveal late tomorrow night, the manufacturer has confirmed that its latest quarterly results put M GmbH ‘on track’ to achieve an all-time sales record in its 50th anniversary year. The latest numbers suggest that the performance division is only slightly ahead of last year at 124,459 cars sold, but on the basis that 2021 was itself a record-breaker, the firm is clearly confident that it will overhaul its previous best effort. And with the M3 Touring set to launch in the fourth quarter, who are we to argue with that assessment? 

However, while 2022 has certainly been a banner year for combustion M cars - let’s not forget we’ve also had the new M4 CSL, a revised X3 M, updated M340i and X7 M60i among others - BMW suggests that its recent performance is due to the ‘tailwind’ created by the launch of the first two fully-electrified M Performance models, the i4 M50 and the iX M60. One, you’ll recall is 437hp saloon capable of 0-62mph in less than 4 seconds. The other is best thought of as gateway drug to the XM. 

Certainly, though, the electric car angle fits into the wider sales narrative. The company reckons it has shifted 128,196 fully-electric BMW and Minis in the first nine months of 2022 - a number which effectively doubles last year’s results. Together with the iX3, it is the i4 and iX (regardless of spec) driving that figure, with additional help now expected from the incoming i7 and just revealed iX1. 

“The dynamic growth of our fully-electric models reflects how the BMW Group’s electric lineup is winning over customers – as we continue to press ahead with the transition towards electromobility,” said Pieter Nota, BMW’s board member for Customer, Brands, Sales. Don’t expect the firm to rest on its laurels either: the new BMW i5 is due in 2023, alongside the first battery-electric Rolls-Royce, the Spectre. But M2 first, with a new six-cylinder motor, rear-drive and, yes, the option of a manual gearbox. Maybe snap that up while you can, eh?


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British Beef

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2,573 posts

195 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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The irony that most of those M sales are now SUVs.......

prtyqwerty

50 posts

77 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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New M cars are about as enticing as a slice of cold pizza. Great of you open the fridge and its staring back at you but not the type of thing you’d cross the road for.

GranpaB

20,094 posts

66 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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It would also be interesting to now how many of those 'sold', actually made it onto peoples driveways.

Clarkedontgo

316 posts

89 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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Good for them , yawn

Harrison Bergeron

5,444 posts

252 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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British Beef said:
The irony that most of those M sales are now SUVs.......
And that they'll include all the M-sport and Mline cars.........

dalzo

1,877 posts

166 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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Surprising that it’s SUV’s selling the most but I have noticed huge amounts of the new m4’s around Glasgow. Almost everyday I spot one.

It’s actually starting to grow on me even with the big stupid nostrils.

mrclav

1,645 posts

253 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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I've just loving how these undeniable facts show that BMW know their customers better than 99.9% of PH's armchair critics.

The amount of times I've read "Why are BMW doing this? They won't sell these ugly cars" (or a variant thereof) on here makes me smile as people saying this really have no clue what they're talking about.

BMW exist to be a profitable business, not to appeal to some beards harping on about the dusty old cars they made in the past, and with the sea change that is coming to motoring in relation to BEVs, the fact they're able to have their best ever sales year for M-division car is very impressive to me.

I'm genuinely looking forward to seeing what they come up with next as clearly, the majority of people who buy M-division cars may not be driving enthusiasts, but they ARE paying customers and those are the people who matter.

Anecdotally, having shown the new XM SUV to as many 'non-car' people as I possibly could, it has been almost unanimously met with a positive reaction!

WCZ

11,559 posts

224 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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the reality is people love those front grilles and the bigger they make them the more people buy cars

Pusikurac

121 posts

70 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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mrclav said:
I've just loving how these undeniable facts show that BMW know their customers better than 99.9% of PH's armchair critics.

The amount of times I've read "Why are BMW doing this? They won't sell these ugly cars" (or a variant thereof) on here makes me smile as people saying this really have no clue what they're talking about.

BMW exist to be a profitable business, not to appeal to some beards harping on about the dusty old cars they made in the past, and with the sea change that is coming to motoring in relation to BEVs, the fact they're able to have their best ever sales year for M-division car is very impressive to me.
Agreed 100%. They are succesfull, because they do not make bland same same cra p.
I never cared about BMW before, but now I think they are great. And I actually ordered new i4 m50, my first BMW. Shame the waiting list was almost 2years, so I had to cancel...

Terminator X

20,886 posts

234 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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mrclav said:
I've just loving how these undeniable facts show that BMW know their customers better than 99.9% of PH's armchair critics.

The amount of times I've read "Why are BMW doing this? They won't sell these ugly cars" (or a variant thereof) on here makes me smile as people saying this really have no clue what they're talking about.

BMW exist to be a profitable business, not to appeal to some beards harping on about the dusty old cars they made in the past, and with the sea change that is coming to motoring in relation to BEVs, the fact they're able to have their best ever sales year for M-division car is very impressive to me.

I'm genuinely looking forward to seeing what they come up with next as clearly, the majority of people who buy M-division cars may not be driving enthusiasts, but they ARE paying customers and those are the people who matter.

Anecdotally, having shown the new XM SUV to as many 'non-car' people as I possibly could, it has been almost unanimously met with a positive reaction!
Save the planet, drive a massive and heavy SUV. Electric though so win I guess.

TX.

Limpet

6,627 posts

191 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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mrclav said:
I've just loving how these undeniable facts show that BMW know their customers better than 99.9% of PH's armchair critics.
Great, isn't it?

I'm not particularly a fan of a lot of their recent output, but I can also appreciate that current legislative requirements impose a significant restriction on all new car designs and technical specifications. And most importantly of all, I can also appreciate that BMW didn't become a €200bn + global company by relying on the wisdom of random, anonymous people on the internet. They pay lots of incredibly bright and very experienced people a lot of money, and they know exactly what they are doing, whether we appreciate it or not.


ate one too

2,914 posts

176 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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Reminds me of the old saying:

Eat st - a million flies can't be wrong ...

GT9

9,069 posts

202 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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Limpet said:
mrclav said:
I've just loving how these undeniable facts show that BMW know their customers better than 99.9% of PH's armchair critics.
Great, isn't it?

I'm not particularly a fan of a lot of their recent output, but I can also appreciate that current legislative requirements impose a significant restriction on all new car designs and technical specifications. And most importantly of all, I can also appreciate that BMW didn't become a €200bn + global company by relying on the wisdom of random, anonymous people on the internet. They pay lots of incredibly bright and very experienced people a lot of money, and they know exactly what they are doing, whether we appreciate it or not.
You know you are just begging for someone to post up a picture of a 1975 E24 and say 'where did it all go wrong'.
Yet we are just as close to 2050 as we are to 1975.

GTRene

22,703 posts

254 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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Harrison Bergeron said:
British Beef said:
The irony that most of those M sales are now SUVs.......
And that they'll include all the M-sport and Mline cars.........
indeed boring M&M's

I've owned a lot BMW M cars, but from better times, like 5 times different BMW E30 m3 2 times BMW M roadster (Z3) and 4 times a M coupe (Z3)
all in different states of change/tuning/standard.

and some made M cars incl M engine like:
-E30 320i converted with M5 340hp six in line
-E36 Compact converted to M3 compact 320hp

M fun, I hope one day they make some other retro lined short 2 seater M car max around 4000 mm with wide hips and nice flows.
and a M supercar with minimum a V8, low and mean, not to big, say modern M1 version
and a M 2+2 not big or high, but for daddy's with small kids, so they can have fun as well.

al mentioned cars must be small, low, wide-ish and light, giving max drivers fun, does not have to be the fastest, but must give a real M feel to the driver.

pacdes

785 posts

191 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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BMW exec's been using those massaging comfort seats I imagine.

pacdes

785 posts

191 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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Limpet said:
mrclav said:
I've just loving how these undeniable facts show that BMW know their customers better than 99.9% of PH's armchair critics.
Great, isn't it?

I'm not particularly a fan of a lot of their recent output, but I can also appreciate that current legislative requirements impose a significant restriction on all new car designs and technical specifications. And most importantly of all, I can also appreciate that BMW didn't become a €200bn + global company by relying on the wisdom of random, anonymous people on the internet. They pay lots of incredibly bright and very experienced people a lot of money, and they know exactly what they are doing, whether we appreciate it or not.
One word... Alfa

Baldchap

9,629 posts

122 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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Do BMW sell a car without an M badge somewhere on it?

Mr Tidy

31,736 posts

157 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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Probably not any more. frown

Although my 2005 SE 3 Series doesn't have any!




sege

604 posts

252 months

Tuesday 11th October 2022
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Proof that the iX M60 & X7 M60i are the greatest M cars ever.

sege

604 posts

252 months

Tuesday 11th October 2022
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mrclav said:
I've just loving how these undeniable facts show that BMW know their customers better than 99.9% of PH's armchair critics.

The amount of times I've read "Why are BMW doing this? They won't sell these ugly cars" (or a variant thereof) on here makes me smile as people saying this really have no clue what they're talking about.

BMW exist to be a profitable business, not to appeal to some beards harping on about the dusty old cars they made in the past, and with the sea change that is coming to motoring in relation to BEVs, the fact they're able to have their best ever sales year for M-division car is very impressive to me.

I'm genuinely looking forward to seeing what they come up with next as clearly, the majority of people who buy M-division cars may not be driving enthusiasts, but they ARE paying customers and those are the people who matter.

Anecdotally, having shown the new XM SUV to as many 'non-car' people as I possibly could, it has been almost unanimously met with a positive reaction!
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