Thursday 13th October 2022

New RS takes 10 seconds off 992 GT3 'ring lap

Not a record run this time around, but sub 6:50 is still some going...

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Yes, yes, another fast Porsche going very quickly around the Nurburgring. You’ve seen it all before, right? Not this time, promise. Because the latest 911 GT3 RS, complete with a Weissach Package, Cup 2Rs and 860kg of downforce, has lapped the 20.8km Nordschleife lap in 6:49.328 seconds. With just 525hp, don’t forget.

It’s a genuinely extraordinary time, just when it seemed like the laps couldn’t get any crazier. It’s not far off a second per horsepower faster than the standard, 510hp 992 GT3 (6:59.93) which goes to show just how much say the overhauled aero is having. And get this: on the old record loop, this RS recorded a 6:44.848. On the same lap, a 918 Spyder did 6:57 in 2013. Back then, the notion of a mere 911 going so much faster with 350hp less would have sounded like science fiction.

The lap itself, driven by Jorg Bergmeister, is absorbing to say the least. Neither the acceleration nor maximum speeds are all that by the standards of mega Nordschleife laps - 280km/h at Schwedenkreuz, 290km/h down the Dottinger Hohe - but the cornering is out of this world. You can watch Bergmeister (also the man responsible for that GT4 RS lap) barely brake for corners that memory and your eyes will tell you require much more stopping. It’s incredible. Watch the run out from Bergwerk at 3:10 through to Klostertal and the Karussell section; it scythes through the high speed stuff here and around the lap like a 911 never has.

Oh yes, and apparently this wasn’t even a good day for a lap, with a headwind on the Dottinger Hohe and cold tarmac. Andreas Preuninger was merely ‘satisfied’ with the time. So presumably the GT3 RS could go even faster still. Bergmeister added: "Especially in the fast sections, the 911 GT3 RS is in a league of its own. Here the car is on a level that you otherwise only know from high-class race cars. The car also sets new standards in braking. This makes fast laps on the Nordschleife simply a lot of fun."

But this wasn’t a record-breaking run, amazingly. The GT3 RS must be the fastest naturally aspirated production car to get around the lap, however the Nurburgring doesn’t have a category for that. By the ‘sports car’ class it falls into (which rather sells those vehicles short), the 992 is a little behind the AMG GT Black Series and old 991 GT2 RS with the Manthey goodies. That’s the mad world we live in. Heaven knows where we’ll end up when Manthey get to work on this RS - and then the GT2 will turn up…

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• 2023 Porsche 911 (992) GT3 RS | PH Review
• RPM Technik 718 GT4 MR | PH Review

[WCZ]

decent time considering the HP, the gt2 rs should get the outright record unless the valk has been fixed and puts a time in before then

[Dave Hedgehog]

only 6 seconds slower than the GT2 MR, very impressive

[mwstewart]

Properly going!

[RacerMike]

Corner speed (unsurprisingly) on the 3RS is absolutely disgusting! Really fascinating watching the two laps side by side:



https://viewsync.net/watch?v=GqVRqARkh8g&t=11&...

[Evil.soup]

If ever there was a car that looked like it was built for a specific function, its this bad boy!

[Terminator X]

RacerMike said:

Corner speed (unsurprisingly) on the 3RS is absolutely disgusting! Really fascinating watching the two laps side by side:



https://viewsync.net/watch?v=GqVRqARkh8g&t=11&...

The GT2 acceleration is insane!

TX.

[RacerMike]

Terminator X said:

RacerMike said:

Corner speed (unsurprisingly) on the 3RS is absolutely disgusting! Really fascinating watching the two laps side by side:



https://viewsync.net/watch?v=GqVRqARkh8g&t=11&...

The GT2 acceleration is insane!

TX.

Actually this is arguably more impressive.....this is the GT3 R compared to the 3RS!

https://viewsync.net/watch?v=GqVRqARkh8g&t=11&...

[British Beef]

Very nice (track) car, but at this price point (not wanting to sound like a broken record), I would have a dedicated race car waiting at track for me or towed behind my luxury SUV, if I was in a position to own one, I could not be arsed driving it on the road to get to the track, unless you happen to live within 1/2 drive of said race track.

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[RacerMike]

British Beef said:

Very nice (track) car, but at this price point (not wanting to sound like a broken record), I would have a dedicated race car waiting at track for me or towed behind my luxury SUV, if I was in a position to own one, I could not be arsed driving it on the road to get to the track, unless you happen to live within 1/2 drive of said race track.

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This kind of pace though you're looking at very serious bits of kit with zero warranty and some very expensive maintenance bills. Basically you'd talking a GT3 car for that level of comparable experience, or if you only care about the laptime, very serious Radicals. There really isn't much around that could match the lap experience on a track. Sure it's not cheap to run either, but it's certainly cheaper than an old Cup car or an actual GT3.

[Murcielago_Boy]

What tyres is it on VS 992 GT3?
TBH - it's all a load of BS.

Who cares when you're hooning down Sloane St?

[RacerMike]

Murcielago_Boy said:

What tyres is it on VS 992 GT3?
TBH - it's all a load of BS.

Who cares when you're hooning down Sloane St?

It’s on Michelin Pilot Sport Cup2 R’s. Think it’s another new spec of the R. The 992 GT3 was on a Cup2 R as well I believe.

Congratulations on making the second bingo comment of the thread so far.

We’ve had:

- I’d rather have a track only car
- They’re only ever driven in London

Still to come:

- Would be great if they let anyone buy one
- They’ll never go anywhere near a track as they’re all sat in a garage doing no miles
- Shame they all get flipped for £500k
- A 911 Cup Car would be faster
- Great another Beetle with a huge wing
- Looks like it crashed through Halfords

[Mutton]

Thought I'd do another comparison, this time with the 991.2 GT3 RS MR. You can see the new car carrying 10kmh more in some of the faster corners, plus is about 15kmh faster along the döttinger höhe straight, no doubt helped by the DRS feature.

http://viewsync.net/watch?v=GqVRqARkh8g&t=6.45...

[EdT]

You think Porsche might invest in a more decent dashcam whilst next down Halfords?

[airbusA346]

Mutton said:

Thought I'd do another comparison, this time with the 991.2 GT3 RS MR. You can see the new car carrying 10kmh more in some of the faster corners, plus is about 15kmh faster along the döttinger höhe straight, no doubt helped by the DRS feature.

http://viewsync.net/watch?v=GqVRqARkh8g&t=6.45...

Don't forget they resurfaced the Döttinger Höhe to Sabine-Schmitz-Kurve at the beginning of 2022.

[airbusA346]

EdT said:

You think Porsche might invest in a more decent dashcam whilst next down Halfords?

Blame the camera used by Vbox. Not cheap either. One 1080p camera is £450.

[CedricN]

airbusA346 said:

Mutton said:

Thought I'd do another comparison, this time with the 991.2 GT3 RS MR. You can see the new car carrying 10kmh more in some of the faster corners, plus is about 15kmh faster along the döttinger höhe straight, no doubt helped by the DRS feature.

http://viewsync.net/watch?v=GqVRqARkh8g&t=6.45...

Don't forget they resurfaced the Döttinger Höhe to Sabine-Schmitz-Kurve at the beginning of 2022.

The track is a not insignificant factor, last 5-10 years many parts of the track has been smoothed out, jumps cut down and surface improved, its a faster track now than ever.

[Olivera]

CedricN said:

The track is a not insignificant factor, last 5-10 years many parts of the track has been smoothed out, jumps cut down and surface improved, its a faster track now than ever.

I've always been impressed by the XJ220's time set in 91 of 7:46, ancient tyres and a slower track versus today.

[thegreenhell]

Olivera said:

CedricN said:

The track is a not insignificant factor, last 5-10 years many parts of the track has been smoothed out, jumps cut down and surface improved, its a faster track now than ever.

I've always been impressed by the XJ220's time set in 91 of 7:46, ancient tyres and a slower track versus today.

It would be interesting to see what it could do now on modern tyres.

[The spinner of plates]

Good lord, a road car doing 210kph through Flugplatz…

That’s rather serious aero.

[Canon_Fodder]

Looks like a whole flock of pigeons took a dump on his windscreen too - would have been a minute faster if he hadn't had to use the wipers