Aston Martin Rapide Alternatives
Aston Martin Rapide Alternatives
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AlexNJ89

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3,201 posts

107 months

Wednesday 19th October 2022
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My current garage is an Alpine A110, Lexus LS460 (the mileage gobbler) and a Ginetta G40 for track days.

I'm looking to buy a car which comes in between the Alpine and the Lexus, a coupe or 4-door which can be driven across Europe and still be able to handle some nice roads. The Alpine just doesn't have the luggage space for a week or two away and isn't stable enough on motorways to be able to sit back and relax.

My budget is either £40k, or I could wait until after this looming recession if over and combine some finance to make it £70k. So I guess any suggestion up to £70k would be fine.

I'd like a big engine like a V8 or V12. Something with character and at least 4 seats. I like unique cars that you don't often see.

I thought an Aston Martin Rapide would be it, but I drove one today and was underwhelmed by it, I was shocked to be honest.

I've also considered a Maserati Quattroporte GTS which was great but a little dated inside. I don't like the shape of the Porsche Panamera.

Suggestions appreciated!

Pyrolysis

338 posts

145 months

Wednesday 19th October 2022
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ZX10R NIN

30,420 posts

153 months

Wednesday 19th October 2022
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While they look familiar but you always know when you've actually seen one as they have presence so I'd say go & test drive the S500 Coupe.

They drive well & can be hustled along at a lick that'll have C63 owners sweating, they're also a very nice place to be & will eat miles with ease a map will see you with over 500bhp although they don't feel underpowered as standard.

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Castrol for a knave

7,708 posts

119 months

Wednesday 19th October 2022
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612 unless you want something a little more recent.

Maybe the M8 would come in arpumd £70k

AlexNJ89

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Wednesday 19th October 2022
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ZX10R NIN said:
While they look familiar but you always know when you've actually seen one as they have presence so I'd say go & test drive the S500 Coupe.

They drive well & can be hustled along at a lick that'll have C63 owners sweating, they're also a very nice place to be & will eat miles with ease a map will see you with over 500bhp although they don't feel underpowered as standard.

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Good shout, something I had in mind as more of a cruiser but if they have some personality I'd definitely give one a go. Could even get a convertible one.

ZX10R NIN

30,420 posts

153 months

Wednesday 19th October 2022
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AlexNJ89 said:
Good shout, something I had in mind as more of a cruiser but if they have some personality I'd definitely give one a go. Could even get a convertible one.
The good thing about the coupe is that unlike a lot of it's rivals, it's actually a proper pillarless coupe so when you drop all the windows away & open the roof it's like having a convertible without any of the drawbacks.

The exhaust note is a little quiet but a Xpipe adds just enough (it still won't be 63 loud) to give it a bit of aural character as do some direct replacement air filters.

You'll need more than a 10 minute test drive as these are cars that the more you drive them the more you appreciate they're capabilities.

samoht

7,158 posts

174 months

Wednesday 19th October 2022
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Hmm, how different is an S500 Coupe from the S-Class saloon? which is a direct equivalent to the LS460 that OP already has.

I've been impressed by my C55 being nice and stable at the speed limiter on the autobahn, very comfortable for a whole day driving, and still quite good at flowing down a B-road, so on that basis I'd suggest looking at a C63 (W204 or 205), I think the smaller C-class platform perhaps strikes a better compromise. It is rather common, though.

Lexus ISF worth considering ? Or LC500?

AlexNJ89

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3,201 posts

107 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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samoht said:
Hmm, how different is an S500 Coupe from the S-Class saloon? which is a direct equivalent to the LS460 that OP already has.

I've been impressed by my C55 being nice and stable at the speed limiter on the autobahn, very comfortable for a whole day driving, and still quite good at flowing down a B-road, so on that basis I'd suggest looking at a C63 (W204 or 205), I think the smaller C-class platform perhaps strikes a better compromise. It is rather common, though.

Lexus ISF worth considering ? Or LC500?
The LC500 is absolutely phenomenal car. Probably one of the best GT cars I've driven.

But unfortunately the storage space is tiny.

DKL

4,932 posts

250 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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Despite having only just bought the previous car I'm already considering the options to replace it!
We need 4 seats so a Rapide is right up there but I'd wait until the S version drops a little.
Otherwise assuming age isn't an issue the alternatives are

Maserati Granturismo - Harry M did a good comparison of this with the Rapide
Ferrari 456
TVR cerbera

All very different but with similar abilities to drain a wallet.

AlexNJ89

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Saturday 22nd October 2022
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DKL said:
Despite having only just bought the previous car I'm already considering the options to replace it!
We need 4 seats so a Rapide is right up there but I'd wait until the S version drops a little.
Otherwise assuming age isn't an issue the alternatives are

Maserati Granturismo - Harry M did a good comparison of this with the Rapide
Ferrari 456
TVR cerbera

All very different but with similar abilities to drain a wallet.
Have you driven a Rapide S?

I was wondering if it was a bit more engaging.

I’d love to one day own the AME variant.

Dr mojo

214 posts

207 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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I was also underwhelmed by Rapide. I so wanted to like it, however, too old fashioned interior, some bizarre ergonomics and not as well built as expected but gorgeous to look at and great engine sound. I know you discounted Panamera but for me looks aside it is best in class in terms of road handling, cruising, interior build quality, technology and space. Suggest you drive a panny turbo and then decide; you may forgive the looks although latest generation is much improved in that respect.

AlexNJ89

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107 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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Dr mojo said:
I was also underwhelmed by Rapide. I so wanted to like it, however, too old fashioned interior, some bizarre ergonomics and not as well built as expected but gorgeous to look at and great engine sound. I know you discounted Panamera but for me looks aside it is best in class in terms of road handling, cruising, interior build quality, technology and space. Suggest you drive a panny turbo and then decide; you may forgive the looks although latest generation is much improved in that respect.
Yep, completely agree.

alabbasi

3,175 posts

115 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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CLS63 should do the job, probably better

21ATS

1,105 posts

100 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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BMW M850i always looks like a lot of car for the money.

If budget allows look at the S560 coupe over the S500 it's the 4.0TT AMG engine in the S560 - the quite old 4.7 V8 in the S500.


fflump

3,374 posts

66 months

Sunday 23rd October 2022
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I'd definitely try the Rapide S before discounting it. Post 2014 it got the same engine as the Vanquish S-about 100 bhp more than the original Rapide which the market does not seem keen on...
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2011-aston-mar...
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2010-aston-mar...

A Conti GT is a good car but pretty common.

As noted above a Granturismo Sport, 612 or 456 are the Italian options with useable rear seats and none are common sights.

DKL

4,932 posts

250 months

Sunday 23rd October 2022
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That green one looks lovely. I'm all for colours not just greyscale.
Someone mentioned a cls and that's what I have just acquired. It's a nice place to be but I'd expect an AM to be a step up. It's ballistically quick if that's what you want and pootles quite happily.
I've not really examined a rapide close up but hopefully I will as I need to do the v12 thing.

Shifter1

1,081 posts

119 months

Sunday 23rd October 2022
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fflump said:
I'd definitely try the Rapide S before discounting it. Post 2014 it got the same engine as the Vanquish S-about 100 bhp more than the original Rapide which the market does not seem keen on...
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2011-aston-mar...
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2010-aston-mar...

A Conti GT is a good car but pretty common.

As noted above a Granturismo Sport, 612 or 456 are the Italian options with useable rear seats and none are common sights.
Just whatever you do, don't buy a 456.

fflump

3,374 posts

66 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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Shifter1 said:
fflump said:
I'd definitely try the Rapide S before discounting it. Post 2014 it got the same engine as the Vanquish S-about 100 bhp more than the original Rapide which the market does not seem keen on...
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2011-aston-mar...
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2010-aston-mar...

A Conti GT is a good car but pretty common.

As noted above a Granturismo Sport, 612 or 456 are the Italian options with useable rear seats and none are common sights.
Just whatever you do, don't buy a 456.
Any particular reason? I'm talking about the manual one.

21ATS

1,105 posts

100 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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The 456 is really last generation Ferrari. They are all old now. Parts are becoming scarce and it will go wrong, regularly.

A 456 is a hobby car these days, a 4th car that drives from A to A. They are no longer reliable enough to consider for the use you'd want.

fflump

3,374 posts

66 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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21ATS said:
The 456 is really last generation Ferrari. They are all old now. Parts are becoming scarce and it will go wrong, regularly.

A 456 is a hobby car these days, a 4th car that drives from A to A. They are no longer reliable enough to consider for the use you'd want.
I had no idea parts were scarce. I ran a 20 year old Maserati coupe recently and everything was a mouse click away from Eurospares.

Is it the low numbers made that mean parts are hard to come by?
Is it a similar issue for the 550? The 355?