RE: Porsche readies Plaid-crushing Taycan 
RE: Porsche readies Plaid-crushing Taycan 
Thursday 20th October 2022

Porsche readies Plaid-crushing Taycan 

As much as 1000hp might be on the cards for future EV 'ring record-setter


Porsche’s infatuation with ‘ring lap times is well documented. Just last week it was busy congratulating itself for shaving 10 seconds off the standard 992 GT3’s monster time with the even more monstrous 992 GT3 RS - a model which is already deemed to be quicker than a 911 Cup car. Where other manufacturers tend to treat a flying lap as a handy development tool and/or occasional marketing wheeze, for Porsche it’s very much a way of life. Every car sets a time, and woe betide the engineering team that doesn’t achieve the target set for it. 

As a consequence, the manufacturer tends to get a bit prickly if someone knocks it off its perch. This has been going on for years, of course, but it was edifying to see Porsche’s reaction to the lap set by the Tesla Model S Plaid back in 2021. The American upstart, courtesy of a 1020hp output and some highly put-upon tyres, delivered a 7:35.579 record for EVs in September of that year with Andreas Simonsen at the yoke. It was impressive stuff. So much so that it took seven months for Porsche to beat it. 

It did so with a lightly modified (but available to buyers in Germany) Taycan Turbo S, which was very much down on power versus the Model S, but very much superior in the handling department. Accordingly, the margin was slender - just a little over two seconds distinguished the Taycan from its much older American rival. Evidently, this fact has been niggling at Porsche’s brain trust, because the latest spy photos suggest that the firm is inclined to have another crack at bettering its overall EV lap record. 

As ever, there’s nothing remotely official yet - but we’re going to believe both our eyes and the assurances of our ‘ring-based snapper, as he feverishly predicts a 1,000hp output for the plainly modified Taycan currently ploughing round the track. You likely won’t need to be told that the number would represent a sizeable upgrade for the model, which currently hovers at around 760hp in high-spec format - and only then courtesy of an overboost function. 

Of course, this being an EV, it’s not the scale of the number which confounds expectations, but rather the management of all the necessary factors around it - and not just for the completion of a flying lap of the world’s most demanding proving ground, but in a car that must also be sold to the public if Porsche intends for it to be anything other than a one-off showcase. For now, there’s nothing to underwrite our photographer’s prophetic figure aside from the notion that the manufacturer would doubtless very much like to compete with Tesla’s uber-powerful headliner in showrooms - and crush it on its hallowed proving ground. 

Alongside the theoretical space for such a flagship (and the Cayenne Turbo GT proved beyond doubt that nothing is off the table in terms of go-faster product) there is the fact of that prominent new aero package, which comprises at the very least a jutting front bumper and huge fixed wing - not to mention colossal wheels, tyres, brakes and a roll cage inside. Oh and the fact it is apparently being piloted by Lars Kern, who just happens to be the man that set the Taycan’s 7:33.35 lap back in April. 1,000hp or not, that record is likely to be short-lived.


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mrclav

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1,645 posts

253 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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Yesssssss.... Bring it on!

TNH

592 posts

177 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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Looks like its got the GT double bubble style roof as well.

mat205125

17,790 posts

243 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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Please can we have this in 2/3 scale, with 50% of the performance, for 1/3 of the price.

British Beef

2,573 posts

195 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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Literally zero f**ks given, electric luxury 4 door 2.5 ton family car willy waving around Nurburgring.

Zero to 60 in less than 3 seconds and fastest ever 4 door car around N,ring................. for 1 lap......

mrclav

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1,645 posts

253 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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mat205125 said:
Please can we have this in 2/3 scale, with 50% of the performance, for 1/3 of the price.
That'll be the EV Cayman that'll be out in 2025 then.

Robertb

3,906 posts

268 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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mrclav said:
mat205125 said:
Please can we have this in 2/3 scale, with 50% of the performance, for 1/3 of the price.
That'll be the EV Cayman that'll be out in 2025 then.
Or the Tesla Model 3, out now.

mat205125

17,790 posts

243 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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Robertb said:
mrclav said:
mat205125 said:
Please can we have this in 2/3 scale, with 50% of the performance, for 1/3 of the price.
That'll be the EV Cayman that'll be out in 2025 then.
Or the Tesla Model 3, out now.
Should have said ...... "Doesn't look like a bar of used soap, with an interior akin to a 1980s Dixons Matsui midi-system"

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FlukePlay

1,198 posts

175 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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I cannot see Tesla having their own way for very long...by the end of the decade, when every other car manufacturer has launched full EVs, it's going to b a very different market place for Tesla.

nismo48

7,184 posts

237 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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Soooo good well done Porschebiglaugh

whp1983

1,401 posts

169 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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British Beef said:
Literally zero f**ks given, electric luxury 4 door 2.5 ton family car willy waving around Nurburgring.

Zero to 60 in less than 3 seconds and fastest ever 4 door car around N,ring................. for 1 lap......
This….. without being too EV bashing (I like the taycan)…. What’s point? Noise is the same, experience largely the same…. This is the problem what is the USP apart from largely unusable performance compared to standard.

donteatpeople

881 posts

304 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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TNH said:
Looks like its got the GT double bubble style roof as well.
That's on the current car too:


RacerMike

4,974 posts

241 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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whp1983 said:
British Beef said:
Literally zero f**ks given, electric luxury 4 door 2.5 ton family car willy waving around Nurburgring.

Zero to 60 in less than 3 seconds and fastest ever 4 door car around N,ring................. for 1 lap......
This….. without being too EV bashing (I like the taycan)…. What’s point? Noise is the same, experience largely the same…. This is the problem what is the USP apart from largely unusable performance compared to standard.
If you'd driven a Taycan and a Model S you'd realise that this simply isn't true.

CrippsCorner

3,388 posts

211 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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I wish this thing wasn't a saloon... I'd love to see that front end on a regular 2dr Porsche sports car.

MyV10BarksAndBites

1,705 posts

79 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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mrclav said:
Yesssssss.... Bring it on!
That’s what I’m saying laugh… Let’s go!!!

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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The model S is so miserable to drive I was genuinely shocked it put in the time it did. Wouldn't be surprised if it was running even more power than a regular plaid. A Taycan with the same power would, imo, completely crush the S

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 20th October 15:19

Draxindustries1

1,657 posts

53 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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RacerMike said:
whp1983 said:
British Beef said:
Literally zero f**ks given, electric luxury 4 door 2.5 ton family car willy waving around Nurburgring.

Zero to 60 in less than 3 seconds and fastest ever 4 door car around N,ring................. for 1 lap......
This….. without being too EV bashing (I like the taycan)…. What’s point? Noise is the same, experience largely the same…. This is the problem what is the USP apart from largely unusable performance compared to standard.
If you'd driven a Taycan and a Model S you'd realise that this simply isn't true.
As much as I like Porsche there really isn't any use on clogged 70mph limit UK roads for a 1000hp car, not even half that power. It can only be exploited for a few milliseconds. Some German autobahns with unlimited sections possibly but they're disappearing year on year.

Glenn63

3,961 posts

114 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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Will it have the same ridiculous geo set up as the cayenne GT thing where half the tyre isn’t even touching the tarmac during normal driving.

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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whp1983 said:
British Beef said:
Literally zero f**ks given, electric luxury 4 door 2.5 ton family car willy waving around Nurburgring.

Zero to 60 in less than 3 seconds and fastest ever 4 door car around N,ring................. for 1 lap......
This….. without being too EV bashing (I like the taycan)…. What’s point? Noise is the same, experience largely the same…. This is the problem what is the USP apart from largely unusable performance compared to standard.
Experience largely the same? What, between Model S and Taycan? If that's what you're saying I'm going to guess you haven't driven them.

J4CKO

46,989 posts

230 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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Draxindustries1 said:
RacerMike said:
whp1983 said:
British Beef said:
Literally zero f**ks given, electric luxury 4 door 2.5 ton family car willy waving around Nurburgring.

Zero to 60 in less than 3 seconds and fastest ever 4 door car around N,ring................. for 1 lap......
This….. without being too EV bashing (I like the taycan)…. What’s point? Noise is the same, experience largely the same…. This is the problem what is the USP apart from largely unusable performance compared to standard.
If you'd driven a Taycan and a Model S you'd realise that this simply isn't true.
As much as I like Porsche there really isn't any use on clogged 70mph limit UK roads for a 1000hp car, not even half that power. It can only be exploited for a few milliseconds. Some German autobahns with unlimited sections possibly but they're disappearing year on year.
It is utterly pointless, but it will be quite good fun, and there is always a market for the pointless as not everything is about utility and being adequate.

Take that away and we then start realising the futility of existence, so lets continue with our clever folk making exquisite things that we really dont need to distract us.

Taycans are everywhere, two have appeared on the cul de sac we live in, only 20 houses, so its ten percent Taycan owners, one has the base, the other a Turbo S, I need to get this one now biggrin




Julian Scott

4,308 posts

54 months

Thursday 20th October 2022
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FlukePlay said:
I cannot see Tesla having their own way for very long...by the end of the decade, when every other car manufacturer has launched full EVs, it's going to b a very different market place for Tesla.
Perhaps, but based on numerous friends that have T3s, they are massively popular and miles ahead in product and overall ownership proposition.

Not the enthusiasts choice, but for those for whom a car is an enjoyable white good, Tesla is the market leader by a mile.