People who don’t list cars correctly
People who don’t list cars correctly
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shuebc

Original Poster:

235 posts

139 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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This is a message to traders and regular people selling their cars.

Please list your car correctly especially traders.
Not only is it annoying for people searching a specific car “GR YARIS” being one in particular, but it also means your actually loosing the right type of customer viewing your ad.

Just searching a GR Yaris and there’s about 300 regular Yaris’s listed under GR. I’ll forgive regular people who might make a mistake and just assume this GR Yaris as being a Yaris, but come one traders… you should know better.

Rant over
Karen

Monkeylegend

28,934 posts

259 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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Just to add the number of adverts with no photos of the instrument display but 100 pictures of the outside, or rather 4 pictures repeated 25 times each, ..............why?

Mercutio

333 posts

190 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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Great thread OP

your GR examples may be mistakes but I reckon they’re deliberate and optimisation attempts to grab attention for lesser cars

I mean, I would put good money on it that many Porsche dealers deliberately list their high value PDK GT Porsches as “manual” even though they are clearly autos.

They do it because they hope someone who is looking for a mint PTS manual example will get tempted into one with the admittedly excellent auto - an example they wouldn’t have found if they hadn’t deliberately wrongly listed it as a manual.

It’s bloody annoying because by the time I’ve sifted through the 46 GT cars in the listings, perhaps 9 or so are genuine manuals

85Carrera

3,503 posts

265 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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And don’t cover up the number plates to hide the MOT history either!

Caddyshack

14,564 posts

234 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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85Carrera said:
And don’t cover up the number plates to hide the MOT history either!
I think people do that on more common cars as scammers can use the plate to run an illegal car on the same plate (clone). My friend had it on a Vw from an advert.

Zarco

20,810 posts

237 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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My pet hate is '16 valve'.

Like there has ever been an 8 valve Lotus Elise.

85Carrera

3,503 posts

265 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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Caddyshack said:
85Carrera said:
And don’t cover up the number plates to hide the MOT history either!
I think people do that on more common cars as scammers can use the plate to run an illegal car on the same plate (clone). My friend had it on a Vw from an advert.
How is it different from seeing another car of the same make on the road? Complete nonsense.

Caddyshack

14,564 posts

234 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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85Carrera said:
Caddyshack said:
85Carrera said:
And don’t cover up the number plates to hide the MOT history either!
I think people do that on more common cars as scammers can use the plate to run an illegal car on the same plate (clone). My friend had it on a Vw from an advert.
How is it different from seeing another car of the same make on the road? Complete nonsense.
Police told him that the scammers do it when a car is being sold as it can give them more time whilst paperwork changes hands and gets updated. I thought the same as you but it seems to be a thing.


samoht

7,158 posts

174 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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On AT you can search Toyota > Yaris > GR Circuit, and you get the real deals.
Whereas on PH you go Toyota > GR Yaris, and get swamped with grannymobiles.
(Sorting price descending helps a bit tbh)

I think AT make you put the reg in and look up on their side, so cars overwhelmingly get categorised correctly.
Whereas PH you the seller have to go through and specify make and model manually. Since 'GR Yaris' appears above 'Yaris' in the list, one in three sellers seem to assume the 'GR' bit is irrelevant and select that.


IMHO it'd be worth PH investing a bit of effort making their classifieds more functional, catch up with the market leaders. However I'm a programmer not a businessman, so I tend to assume it's best to attempt to do things correctly rather than cheaply.

I also found this exciting rear wheel drive "GR Yaris" in the PH listings:
Toyota Yaris 350 L3 D/Cab Tipper Leader 170ps & Air Con - DRW & RWD

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14116843

Mr Tidy

30,888 posts

155 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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Definitely agree on the Manuals that aren't - like SMG BMWs. Does my head in!

And all the close up photos of things like the electric mirror switch, etc. when a photo under the bonnet or boot would be more useful.

Caddyshack

14,564 posts

234 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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You can always tell a trader pushing the limit on the price when it starts with a story "the xyz was launched in 1981 to critical acclaim, the 2.0 engine produces….."


Draxindustries1

1,657 posts

51 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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Caddyshack said:
You can always tell a trader pushing the limit on the price when it starts with a story "the xyz was launched in 1981 to critical acclaim, the 2.0 engine produces….."
Ah yes, then also go on to list the first owner ie Mr Hugh Jarse ect followed by another load of irellevant old bks then to top it off ...POA...

shuebc

Original Poster:

235 posts

139 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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Hahaha that’s the GR Yaris I was looking for too!


samoht said:
On AT you can search Toyota > Yaris > GR Circuit, and you get the real deals.
Whereas on PH you go Toyota > GR Yaris, and get swamped with grannymobiles.
(Sorting price descending helps a bit tbh)

I think AT make you put the reg in and look up on their side, so cars overwhelmingly get categorised correctly.
Whereas PH you the seller have to go through and specify make and model manually. Since 'GR Yaris' appears above 'Yaris' in the list, one in three sellers seem to assume the 'GR' bit is irrelevant and select that.


IMHO it'd be worth PH investing a bit of effort making their classifieds more functional, catch up with the market leaders. However I'm a programmer not a businessman, so I tend to assume it's best to attempt to do things correctly rather than cheaply.

I also found this exciting rear wheel drive "GR Yaris" in the PH listings:
Toyota Yaris 350 L3 D/Cab Tipper Leader 170ps & Air Con - DRW & RWD

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14116843

shuebc

Original Poster:

235 posts

139 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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Yeh never understood the manual thing myself either… it’s as if these sellers think people looking for manuals, would suddenly see an SMG, and go actually what I really wanted is an SMG, so I’ll just buy this one listed in the manual section, and not view the hundreds of correctly listed SMGs, in the autos sections.


Mr Tidy said:
Definitely agree on the Manuals that aren't - like SMG BMWs. Does my head in!

And all the close up photos of things like the electric mirror switch, etc. when a photo under the bonnet or boot would be more useful.

shuebc

Original Poster:

235 posts

139 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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Monkeylegend said:
Just to add the number of adverts with no photos of the instrument display but 100 pictures of the outside, or rather 4 pictures repeated 25 times each, ..............why?
Exactly!

Muddle238

4,410 posts

141 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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85Carrera said:
Caddyshack said:
85Carrera said:
And don’t cover up the number plates to hide the MOT history either!
I think people do that on more common cars as scammers can use the plate to run an illegal car on the same plate (clone). My friend had it on a Vw from an advert.
How is it different from seeing another car of the same make on the road? Complete nonsense.
If you’re a criminal looking to clone the plate on whatever car you’re using/just nicked, what’s easier; trawl the public roads and car parks all day long trying to find an exact copy to clone, or simply look one up using the filters on AutoTrader within 30 seconds?

It’s going to be the latter, which is why many people hide or obscure part of VRM when advertising/posting pics online, so that if anybody is out there looking to clone that same make/model/colour, a quick internet search isn’t going to lead them straight to that car.


keo

2,919 posts

198 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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samoht said:
IMHO it'd be worth PH investing a bit of effort making their classifieds more functional, catch up with the market leaders. However I'm a programmer not a businessman, so I tend to assume it's best to attempt to do things correctly rather than cheaply.
I’d agree with this. Pistonheads classifieds used to always be my go to place and I have bought and sold on there in the past. However I don’t even bother looking. It’s hard to navigate on a phone. No idea if it is any better on a pc.

The auto trader app is quick and easy. It’s a shame as I like the ph forums and the classifieds are needed to pay for it.

Oceanrower

1,321 posts

140 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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shuebc said:
This is a message to traders and regular people selling their cars.

Please list your car correctly especially traders.
Not only is it annoying for people searching a specific car “GR YARIS” being one in particular, but it also means your actually loosing the right type of customer viewing your ad.

Just searching a GR Yaris and there’s about 300 regular Yaris’s listed under GR. I’ll forgive regular people who might make a mistake and just assume this GR Yaris as being a Yaris, but come one traders… you should know better.

Rant over
Karen
This is a message to anyone regularly posting on PH.

Please, PLEASE, learn the difference between lose and loose…

Pitre

6,186 posts

262 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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Oceanrower said:
This is a message to anyone regularly posting on PH.

Please, PLEASE, learn the difference between lose and loose…
One of my pet hates. I don't want to join the grammar police, but it's really not that difficult!


Caddyshack

14,564 posts

234 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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Pitre said:
Oceanrower said:
This is a message to anyone regularly posting on PH.

Please, PLEASE, learn the difference between lose and loose…
One of my pet hates. I don't want to join the grammar police, but it's really not that difficult!
I think to and too or bought and brought are more common in adverts.