Is it neglectful for a dealer to sell a car on 7y/o tyres?
Discussion
I went to see a car recently and the tyres were dated as being from 2015 on the sidewall, although they were in good condition in terms of tread, etc. The car had clearly been garaged, but MOT history also showed that the car had hardly been driven at all in the last 7 years.
As far as I know, after 5 years tyres start to deteriorate, this was one of the primary causes of the Paul Walker crash.
Is this neglectful or am I overthinking it?
As far as I know, after 5 years tyres start to deteriorate, this was one of the primary causes of the Paul Walker crash.
Is this neglectful or am I overthinking it?
If its UK, the dealer would only be concerned that it passed MOT? e.g. tyre depth tread, even wear and the sidewalls arnt damaged/perished. I suppose it depends a little on what kind of car it was, Paul walker was in a 400hp Porsche doing over 100 mph, if the car is a 60hp fiat 500 then its not so much an issue (as long as the tyres are in good condition?). You could try and do a deal with them and get them replaced.
ChocolateFrog said:
Depends partly on the value of the car.
At best they'll put the very cheapest tyres they can on it, which probably won't be any better.
It's unlikely it'll been through much retail prep with 7 year old tyres on.
It was quite a high value car, and a sports cars on low profile tyres so new ones aren't the cheapest to buy. At best they'll put the very cheapest tyres they can on it, which probably won't be any better.
It's unlikely it'll been through much retail prep with 7 year old tyres on.
davebem said:
If its UK, the dealer would only be concerned that it passed MOT? e.g. tyre depth tread, even wear and the sidewalls arnt damaged/perished. I suppose it depends a little on what kind of car it was, Paul walker was in a 400hp Porsche doing over 100 mph, if the car is a 60hp fiat 500 then its not so much an issue (as long as the tyres are in good condition?). You could try and do a deal with them and get them replaced.
The car passed an MOT with no advisories. The car wasn't quite a Carrera GT but definitely not a Fiat 500 either.
I bought a car once with very old tyres on it. Handled like a shopping trolley, so I bought new ones.
At no point have I ever considered that the dealer was neglectful. In fact, for various reasons he's the best dealer I've ever dealt with.
The car is perfectly legal. If you don't like it because of the tyres, don't buy it.
At no point have I ever considered that the dealer was neglectful. In fact, for various reasons he's the best dealer I've ever dealt with.
The car is perfectly legal. If you don't like it because of the tyres, don't buy it.
DOCG said:
I went to see a car recently and the tyres were dated as being from 2015 on the sidewall, although they were in good condition in terms of tread, etc. The car had clearly been garaged, but MOT history also showed that the car had hardly been driven at all in the last 7 years.
As far as I know, after 5 years tyres start to deteriorate, this was one of the primary causes of the Paul Walker crash.
Is this neglectful or am I overthinking it?
Depends on the car and if you intend to thrash it at 90 mph through car parks with large immovable trees.As far as I know, after 5 years tyres start to deteriorate, this was one of the primary causes of the Paul Walker crash.
Is this neglectful or am I overthinking it?
I've driven the backside off my morgan 4/4 on 12 year old tyres that showed no wear, I swapped them for new tyres this year and its levels of grip are not discernibly different.
Edited by bennno on Thursday 10th November 18:14
DOCG said:
I went to see a car recently and the tyres were dated as being from 2015 on the sidewall, although they were in good condition in terms of tread, etc. The car had clearly been garaged, but MOT history also showed that the car had hardly been driven at all in the last 7 years.
As far as I know, after 5 years tyres start to deteriorate, this was one of the primary causes of the Paul Walker crash.
No, driving at 100mph on the street was the primary cause.As far as I know, after 5 years tyres start to deteriorate, this was one of the primary causes of the Paul Walker crash.
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DOCG said:
I went to see a car recently and the tyres were dated as being from 2015 on the sidewall, although they were in good condition in terms of tread, etc. The car had clearly been garaged, but MOT history also showed that the car had hardly been driven at all in the last 7 years.
As far as I know, after 5 years tyres start to deteriorate, this was one of the primary causes of the Paul Walker crash.
Is this neglectful or am I overthinking it?
There is no law against it. .As far as I know, after 5 years tyres start to deteriorate, this was one of the primary causes of the Paul Walker crash.
Is this neglectful or am I overthinking it?
I went back to a dealer earlier this year because I found that the front tyres were older than I thought they should be. They changed them without question. It was a fairly high value and high performance car though.
DOCG said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Depends partly on the value of the car.
At best they'll put the very cheapest tyres they can on it, which probably won't be any better.
It's unlikely it'll been through much retail prep with 7 year old tyres on.
It was quite a high value car, and a sports cars on low profile tyres so new ones aren't the cheapest to buy. At best they'll put the very cheapest tyres they can on it, which probably won't be any better.
It's unlikely it'll been through much retail prep with 7 year old tyres on.
Tyres do not have an expiry date so the dealer is not being neglectful. It is relatively easy to see if the rubber is perishing by looking for small cracks on the sidewall (any big cracks will result in an MoT failure if inspected properly).
That said, 7 year old tyres can be substantially older than that. They can be fitted as new up to 5 years after the manufacture date (week and year of manufacture is stamped on the sidewall).
I've seen cars at classic auctions recently with tyres over 20 years old, that had recently passed a MoT test. 
Legal, but the amount of grip would be suspect I expect, they go hard with age.
If a car is 99% of the time garaged, the tyres will last much longer before cracking / perishing, UV light has an accelerated degrading effect on them. They recently passed a law putting a tyre life limit on PSV and HGVs but car tyres, no.
Legal, but the amount of grip would be suspect I expect, they go hard with age.If a car is 99% of the time garaged, the tyres will last much longer before cracking / perishing, UV light has an accelerated degrading effect on them. They recently passed a law putting a tyre life limit on PSV and HGVs but car tyres, no.
Pica-Pica said:
fflump said:
That said, 7 year old tyres can be substantially older than that. They can be fitted as new up to 5 years after the manufacture date (week and year of manufacture is stamped on the sidewall).
How can 7 year old tyres be older than the date on them?It's common for people not to know that tyres have their manufacture date on the sidewall though.
CraigyMc said:
Pica-Pica said:
fflump said:
That said, 7 year old tyres can be substantially older than that. They can be fitted as new up to 5 years after the manufacture date (week and year of manufacture is stamped on the sidewall).
How can 7 year old tyres be older than the date on them?It's common for people not to know that tyres have their manufacture date on the sidewall though.
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